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apocalypsos) wrote2008-09-22 02:05 pm
apocalypsos) wrote2008-09-22 02:05 pm
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AHHHH.
Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as VP of the US?
It's at 52% yes, 47% no. Apparently there's an email campaign to tilt the poll towards yes. So, you know, take a sec and go vote.
It's at 52% yes, 47% no. Apparently there's an email campaign to tilt the poll towards yes. So, you know, take a sec and go vote.
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But, Im impressed by the fact that this is NOT another career politician!!!
Shes a working mom, with a wacky family (like most of us)
and you may not agree with a lot of her positions, but she has held herself in such a manner as to come across as smart, confident and strong!
I like that ... I think shell make a GREAT VP!
Go SARAH!
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Please tell you are being sarcastic.
PLEASE?
Because I don't agree with ANY of her positions and I don't care how smart, confident and strong she is coming across (though I would argue that the fact that they changed the rules for the VP debate because of her lack of debating experience indicates that she's really NOT that smart).
She is anti-woman. She's a liar. And plenty of Republicans have concerns about her.
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One can argue that Obama has VERY little experience in everything except making himself sound more important...
Not sure how you quantify anti-woman? Is it because she is anti abortion? That makes her anti woman? Like I said, I was simply responding to your post---not wanting to start an argument on your LJ.
We will just have to wait until Nov4th and see what happens...
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Except three years as a senator and seven years as a state senator, which means he's been in politics a year longer than Sarah Palin, once you do the math. And if you want to argue that being a senator doesn't count, you might want to take a look at what your presidential nominee has been doing for the last twenty years.
Like I said, I was simply responding to your post---not wanting to start an argument on your LJ.
No offense, but what did you think was going to happen when you supported Palin in an LJ written by someone who clearly thinks she's detrimental to the future of the country?
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You asked! If you dont want opposing viewpoints ? Then why bother polling about it? where not all mindless drones out here....
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But to say you didnt ask for an opinion when you posted the link to the poll on your site, is inane.
Seriously, lets just agree to disagree! Peace!
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No, it's not. It's posting a link. It's not, "Please tell me why you're voting the way you're voting, while you're at it."
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And she is against abortion even in the case of rape/incest. How would you feel if you were brutally attacked, raped and then forced to carry your attacker's child for nine months as a daily reminder of the trauma you suffered?
And this isn't my journal, it's my friend's but I felt the need to comment because saying that you're going to vote for McCain/Palin because she's spunky is ridiculous.
Obama may not have a lot of executive experience, but he certainly knows how to handle himself, better than McCain, according to some conservative Republicans.
I strongly implore you to educate yourself before the election.
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WOW--Your right! I guess a MASTERS in POLITICAL SCIENCE is not enough education. I must be STOOPID if im not voting Obama....
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As I asked below, I am interested in hearing some solid reasons why you support this ticket.
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Fair enough!
I believe that in all the years that Obama was in Office, he voted "present" more than he ever took a side on any one issue.
I cannot respect someone that is so obviously trying to play the politician game
Dont get me wrong, Im not a HUGE McCain fan either--but you cant say he straddled the fence too many times. The geezer took a stand.
Also---I am so very pro domestic drilling ! I have been decrying our dependence on foreign oil for years before it became popular. I totally agree on their "All of the above" energy plan
Id really not rather have the whole abortion debate via LJ..suffice to say, it shouldnt be illegal, but late term abortion (IMO) is murder.
Lets get into Pro US sentiment...
seems like if you want the person you need to trust to have the US best interest at heart, you would go with someone that has served our country in some way.
Obama is a bit sketchy on his US sentiments, but he strikes me as an internationalist. *why is that imp?*
You ask? Because, I happen to agree with a lot of the agreements that we have around the world, such as our friendship with Israel.
Now, before you accuse me of being a bible thumping, anti gay proselytizer, let me say that I have been a registered independent my entire adult life and not religious in any way. Obviously, Im reading SPN slash fic, so i cant be too conservative there either...
Honestly, it all boils down to who I think will have our countries best interest at heart! I think Obama is much hype and Ive been studying his record for several months....Too bad the dems didnt go with Hilary! That would have been a slam dunk!
Again, this is just IMHO-- but I think I have a right to that opinion esp when I have gone out of my way to actually look up all of their voting records. I dont know too many other people that have done that. They are voting purely on "star power" or "race" or "gender"
This is REALLY the last Ill say on all of this, since I gotta get back to work! :-)
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At the same time - during Palin's tenure - Wasilla had 49 reported cases of sexual assault.
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/273965.php
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And I'm not sure why searching the fiscal records for 2000, 2001 & 2002 is relevant if the law was overturned in 2000.
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OTOH, almost every state and municipality in the US has old laws that are simply not enforced and thus aren't discussed.
From the other POV, Illinois did overturn similar law, but there are cases of women charged anyway, by smaller towns who were trying to economize.
The records for 2001/2 were searched presumably to see if there were outstanding bills - i.e. the crime in 2000, investigation throughout the year, but the accounting not processed till a year later.
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Obama may not have "much" experience, as far as your concerned, but at least he was "spunky" enough to take on debate without "special" rules. And Palin has absolutely no understanding of her own party's platform. There's spunky and there's clueless.
You know, the more I hear, the more I resent how she is being set up. She's nothing more than a trophy wife. "Oooh look, we have a woman. And she's a working mom. And a beauty queen. Oh don't listen to her talk, she's an inexperienced and young girl, but doesn't she look pretty up there. Don't worry, the mens have given her the answers to the test." And I resent Palin for either not understanding how she looks or going along with it.
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And seriously, supporting her because she's a mom is ridiculous. We're not voting her into Mom of the Year, we're voting for her for vice-president. That's like saying I should be mayor of my town because I can write really well. It has nothing to do with my ability to work well in a political arena. The VP candidate SHOULD be a career politician, damn it, because that's the job she's signing up for. "Her kids are cute" is NOT a viable argument for her to run the country.
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I NEVER said that I was supporting her because of that--I was simply stating a fact. She is a working mom--fact!
some of the best presidents have NOT been career politicians!
I know all Obama supporters have been given their marching orders over the weekend to be as loud and obnoxious as possible, but I say, we shall see on election day. As long as everyone votes, ultimately, thats what matters.
I wont keep responding as I dont want to be accused of trolling or whatever ---I just hope you can live with the fact that there are opposing viewpoints out there.
:-)
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And I'll repeat what I said in my above response to you. Please educate yourself on the issues before you vote in November.
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But why is it important that she's a working mom any more than McCain and Obama being working dads? Why does it have anything to do with her qualifications to be vice president?
some of the best presidents have NOT been career politicians!
Yes, that's true. But saying it as if it's a badge of honor that she's not is detrimental to her, especially considering that you can't say she's not a career politician and then expound on her vast experience in the next breath. And how exactly is she NOT a career politician when THAT'S her career? (Granted, I think she's terrible at her career. But I still think it's her career.)
know all Obama supporters have been given their marching orders over the weekend to be as loud and obnoxious as possible,
That's insulting and rude.
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Wait, WHAT?!?! If you mean they were career miltary, than ok. Being that they were used to LEADING THE ARMIES OF THE STRONGEST NATION ON EARTH. As opposed to spending their time ineptly trying to ban books and get people fired for personal reasons.
I just don't even know how to deal with what you're saying.
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You know, I don't get you. In half of your replies you've said you don't want to be considered a troll or proselytizer, you act as though your opinions are being suppressed unfairly, you get defensive at the drop of a hat... and then you say something like this.
You've said Obama supporters are just drones doing what they're told. Earlier you said almost no one who supports Obama has bothered to look at his voting record, and implied Obama supporters are all just sucked into the "hype".
Honestly? Yeah, you come across as a troll.
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Frankly, I don't care how she "holds herself." I care about what she DOES. First she fired Monagan and then:
1) Initially refused to say why she fired him;
2) Then later came up with reasons that didn't make sense:
a) Claimed she wanted to take the department in a new direction. (It took her a week to state what the direction WAS. So I'd say that this reason was invalid.)
b) Claimed Monagan was not adequately filling state trooper vacancies. (She dropped this one. Alaska's police academy is about to graduate its largest class ever. Reason--invalid.)
c) Claimed Monagan was not doing enough to fight alcohol abuse problems. (This raises the question--why did she then offer him a state job as Executive Director of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board? If he wasn't fighting alcohol abuse in one position, why would he fight it in another?)
d) Claimed he "did not turn out to be a team player on budgeting issues." (Vague. No way to tell what that means. And not agreeing with your boss on the budget isn't an issue to get fired over.)
And Monagan should have heard about any issues his boss had with him BEFORE he was fired. They shouldn't have come as a shock to him AFTER he was fired.
Oh, and Palin has said repeatedly that she didn't fire Monagan because he wouldn't respond to her pressure to fire her former brother-in-law. Yeah. Suuuuuuuuuuure.
Now, to me, this says a lot about what we can expect from Palin.
First, her behavior. She didn't fire him because he wasn't doing his job; she lashed out and fired him because she was mad and she wasn't getting her own way. It was the political equivalent of a temper tantrum.
Call me crazy, but I don't trust her because of this. I want a person in the executive branch who believes in the law and who follows procedure, even in firing people. I don't want ANYONE in the boss's chair who thinks that they have the right to fire people because they're angry and not getting their own way. A world leader with a sense of entitlement, especially such a strong sense of entitlement, could be extremely dangerous.
Second, she hasn't even bothered to keep her story straight. She came up with a bunch of scattershot reasons for the firing AFTER the firing. The fact that at least two are contradicted by Monagan's and her actions didn't seem to occur to her. She came up with a reason, and she expected people to just believe it without question.
The fact that she told stories that were illogical in the extreme makes me wonder if she isn't a pathological liar, incapable of telling the truth from a lie.
Also, I keep noticing in the stories about her that she keeps blaming others. The media misreported something. A librarian misunderstood what she said. Over and over again. Not once has she taken responsibility for even the smallest mistake.
I don't trust her. I don't trust her to do a good job, to be a responsible Vice-President (or President), to tell the truth at any time, to follow the law or to support the Constitution. And I consider all these things to be deal-breaking flaws. I would not vote for George Washington if I felt as uneasy about him as I do about Palin.
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