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apocalypsosYeah, so guess what I finally saw?
First off, I heartily approve of any episode that starts off with Diana telling Marco he's getting lucky tonight. WINNER. \o/
Anyway, poor Diana. *hugs her* It's one thing to know she loves Maia and another to see just how far she's willing to take that love. Wasting away in a coma just to have memories of Maia? Daaaamn, sweetie.
That the Powers That Will Be figured it would be so damn easy to just take kids they'd already seeded into the timeline and toss them further back in time strikes me as a little weird. I know they're all like, "Oh, we'll make sure your families will forget you and you'll forget them," but I would think that a big hindrance to doing that is that these people don't WANT to forget. Even if you take away their memories, a part of their brain is going to want to remember those kids.
It does make me wonder a lot about what happened to those kids in their alternate past lives. I mean, Maia died when she was twenty-five. Back then, she had a pretty good chance of being married and a mother by then. And Lindsey and Tyler and the twins ... I mean, I find it hard to believe that none of them had kids. That's what gets me -- how easily the Powers That Will Be toss these kids around without seeming to care about who may or may not exist in their own time when they're done. I don't know ... maybe it doesn't matter in the future, but I highly doubt it.
The whole Isabelle-being-evil thing isn't much of a surprise, but it's still pretty cool. Not that we didn't see it coming, honestly, but the overabundance of powers makes a crazy sort of sense that way. If you only get a chance to send one agent back in time, it had better be someone who can hold their own against anyone they come up against. Although, can you imagine how they had to have gotten her smuggled aboard Lily, so to speak? Um, EW.
I think my big problem with the warring factions in the future is that for all of the crap both sides have been pulling, we honestly don't know which side is the good one. I mean, yeah, Faux Sara said the other side wants chaos, but her side doesn't seem to do a hell of a lot that DOESN'T cause some sort of chaos in the end. Take Kyle, for example. I want to think that the other side caused him to do what he did, but they pointed Alana to Tom to give him someone to support him through upcoming difficult times. They had to know damn well what was coming if they did that, indicating that they were the ones who put that thing in Kyle.
Look at both sides, the Powers That Will Be and the Powers That Will Be (Ginormous Chaos-Loving Fucksticks). We have no friggin' clue which side is doing what, and which side is to blame for which of any given episode's creepy happenings, and which side really has humanity's best interests in mind. Just because Kyle on the beach and Alana in her head and Faux Sara say stuff doesn't make it word of law.
And the scary thing is ... still more straight answers than two seasons of Lost ever gave me.
Just for the record, I find myself morbidly amused by the fact that if I were one of the Powers That Will Be, I'd probably be in the warring chaos-loving faction. Heh.
First off, I heartily approve of any episode that starts off with Diana telling Marco he's getting lucky tonight. WINNER. \o/
Anyway, poor Diana. *hugs her* It's one thing to know she loves Maia and another to see just how far she's willing to take that love. Wasting away in a coma just to have memories of Maia? Daaaamn, sweetie.
That the Powers That Will Be figured it would be so damn easy to just take kids they'd already seeded into the timeline and toss them further back in time strikes me as a little weird. I know they're all like, "Oh, we'll make sure your families will forget you and you'll forget them," but I would think that a big hindrance to doing that is that these people don't WANT to forget. Even if you take away their memories, a part of their brain is going to want to remember those kids.
It does make me wonder a lot about what happened to those kids in their alternate past lives. I mean, Maia died when she was twenty-five. Back then, she had a pretty good chance of being married and a mother by then. And Lindsey and Tyler and the twins ... I mean, I find it hard to believe that none of them had kids. That's what gets me -- how easily the Powers That Will Be toss these kids around without seeming to care about who may or may not exist in their own time when they're done. I don't know ... maybe it doesn't matter in the future, but I highly doubt it.
The whole Isabelle-being-evil thing isn't much of a surprise, but it's still pretty cool. Not that we didn't see it coming, honestly, but the overabundance of powers makes a crazy sort of sense that way. If you only get a chance to send one agent back in time, it had better be someone who can hold their own against anyone they come up against. Although, can you imagine how they had to have gotten her smuggled aboard Lily, so to speak? Um, EW.
I think my big problem with the warring factions in the future is that for all of the crap both sides have been pulling, we honestly don't know which side is the good one. I mean, yeah, Faux Sara said the other side wants chaos, but her side doesn't seem to do a hell of a lot that DOESN'T cause some sort of chaos in the end. Take Kyle, for example. I want to think that the other side caused him to do what he did, but they pointed Alana to Tom to give him someone to support him through upcoming difficult times. They had to know damn well what was coming if they did that, indicating that they were the ones who put that thing in Kyle.
Look at both sides, the Powers That Will Be and the Powers That Will Be (Ginormous Chaos-Loving Fucksticks). We have no friggin' clue which side is doing what, and which side is to blame for which of any given episode's creepy happenings, and which side really has humanity's best interests in mind. Just because Kyle on the beach and Alana in her head and Faux Sara say stuff doesn't make it word of law.
And the scary thing is ... still more straight answers than two seasons of Lost ever gave me.
Just for the record, I find myself morbidly amused by the fact that if I were one of the Powers That Will Be, I'd probably be in the warring chaos-loving faction. Heh.
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Date: 2006-07-08 10:31 pm (UTC)Second, they're lying to Tom et al about something big. Maybe they're really aliens, maybe they're trying to create their own possible future, not prevent it, maybe their grasp of temporal mechanics is a lot shakier than they've lead "us" to believe...
And yeah, I love Lost, but the constant failure to resolve anything without creating 9 more questions is starting to grate.
By the way, I'm still waiting for one of the 4400 to develop one of my three favorite powers: teleportation, flight or invisibility.
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Date: 2006-07-08 10:36 pm (UTC)Fake sara seemed very bland and cold and like she just didn't quite get that it was going to be something akin to torture at some level to make them forget their loved ones.
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Date: 2006-07-08 10:54 pm (UTC)That they might have taken the kids with no concept of them or their parents missing one another is really freakin' creepy if they really are from the future. Does anyone really want a future with humanity turning out like that?
I think Lost has an incredible weakness with the five thousand mysteries it sets up in that if you only miss one week, you're way behind. It demands you to keep up every week to not be completely confused, but if it doesn't hold your interest or solve anything well enough, one missed episode and you're toast.
If somebody develops teleportation, I will swoon. That is the superpower I would love to have the most. (Although flight comes right after it.)
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Date: 2006-07-08 11:01 pm (UTC)Actually... maybe that's what they're trying to change? Maybe something about the current course of human events requires that humanity lose or significantly change their emotional heritage and the "good" PTWBs are trying to undo that. After all, we have no idea how far in the future they are.
Ooh! Just thought of another rational for the "making our world" theory: promycin. Considering that whatshisname was supposed to be the "creator" of 4400 tech, how was he going to do that in the "original" timeline if he was mute and in the nuthouse?
Those three powers are in the order that I'd want them, given a choice. :-) Teleporters United!
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Date: 2006-07-09 12:40 am (UTC)They did do things that changed our universe, and it seemed for the better. We had cars that don't need gas and settlements on the moon, as Marco mentioned when he talked about the research he'd done to find the kids' names in history. And those things disappeared when the kids were brought back. Which is why I was surprised that Diana was still in the coma, I thought that in the reset of history, she would have never gone into it. Or something.
I immediately had a creepy-crawly problem with Faux!Sara because she played The Borg Queen on ST: Next Gen, though I didn't realize that's who she was until after the episode was over.
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Date: 2006-07-09 03:06 am (UTC)Oh, that's so sad. But true. Although I did give up on Lost mid second season. I just stopped caring.
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Date: 2006-07-09 04:27 am (UTC)And why wasn't Marco at Diana's bedside? They could have at least mentioned having to phone him about it. :(
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Date: 2006-07-09 06:07 am (UTC)It's a little scary, really. How confusing it sounds. I'm sure it wouldn't be all that bad if I had watched from the start like I did with LOST because LOST...yeah its got some mysteries but I understand what's happened so far.
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Date: 2006-07-09 10:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-07-09 11:24 am (UTC)I want fake!Sara to be the descentent of a 4400, i.e. someone who didn't exist prior to the (original) screwing around. And for her to have ceased to exist by the next time we see the future. Because I'm evil that way. They want to screw around with time? Then some of the consequences ought to affect them personally.
But I want to know the point of using Maia and the other kids for that hair-brained scheme. Why not grab some kids from those times, tinker with them, and put them back with their familes before anyone knew they were missing? I'm guessing they had some justification for the whole showy returning-4400-people-at-once thing, but the thing with the kids was all covert anyway, so why be so intrusive?
It's just all wacky.