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[apocalypsos]

I can't believe I forgot to share yesterday's dumb Bill O'Reilly moment.

So I'm listening to the last hour, and so far he hasn't said anything stupid, and he reads this interview with Sharon Stone. Apparently, Sharon was in Ireland and made a crack that she wanted to kiss Halle Bery in Catwoman because they shouldn't waste an opportunity like that, but they couldn't because of the puritanical Bush administration. No, seriously, that's what she said.

So then O'Reilly says Catwoman was crap, which is true, and then he goes on to explain why, which ... well, yeah. This was how he put it.

Spider-Man made a lot of money and was good because boys are goofy and went to the movie. But Catwoman didn't make any money because girls aren't goofy. At least, he doesn't know any goofy girls.

That was his argument. I was sorely tempted to call in and say, "If you interpret 'goofy' to mean someone who's familiar with comic book lore, then I know lots of goofy girls. I know lots of goofy girls in general, but with those specific qualifications, nearly every woman I know is goofy. And Catwoman didn't make any money, not because girls aren't goofy, but because the plot sucked, the script was a joke, the dialogue was painful, the characters were idiots, the editing blew, the special effects were lame, and the costumes were atrocious." Personally, I like my argument better.

Comments

[robyn-ma.livejournal.com]

i'm in the minority — i actually liked catwoman, possibly because my expectations were so rock-bottom.

[longtimegone]

Doesn't know any goofy girls? That's pretty damn pathetic. o_O

[secretbutterfly.livejournal.com]

I like your argument better too. Cause hello, girls read comics too. Stupid asshat he is. But duh.

[octopedingenue]

Considering the theater audience for the original Spider-Man was over 45% female, I'd say girls can be pretty goofy indeed.

[anne-jumps.livejournal.com]

He is so way off on the demographics for those movies.

[oloriel.livejournal.com]

Beside the fact that the number of people seeing a movie doesn't make it good, or bad. There are movies with lots of visitors that still suck, and movies no one sees that still are brilliant. What has making lots of money to do with quality?

[anne-jumps.livejournal.com]

What has making lots of money to do with quality?
I think we're getting into a deeper issue than movies here.... I imagine that many people think that money = quality. Sigh.... Of course, I also just woke up.

[paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com]

That's not the only stupid, sexist excuse being given for why Polecatwoman flopped.

The reason coming straight from the lips of the poisonous Berry herself is one she read in a review: "Audiences don't want a movie with WOMAN in the title. They want one with MAN in the title."

It's irritating and annoying that sexism is still alive and well in this day and age.

Then again, I shouldn't be surprised. The deeper roles in the X-Men movies have gone to the guys. Most of the female roles in the X-Men movies [except Mystique] are pretty much "stand there and look pretty. Shriek or look distressed and say 'Oh god' at appropriate moments."

[gruyere.livejournal.com]

B-b-b-b-but any title with "woman" in it does have "man" in it!

[paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com]

Best. Comeback. Ever.

[gruyere.livejournal.com]

It came down to that and "well, yeah, Catwo-Man is soooo much cooler than Cat-woman."

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

*snerk* I love you.

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

not to mention that the word 'man' actually means woman. 'were' (as in werewolf) is the word that means man.

[silent-sybil.livejournal.com]

...

...

...really? O.O

[burntcopper.livejournal.com]

Yup. From the saxon.

[lots42.livejournal.com]

Storm had an extensive role in X-Men 1. That is, if they didn't cut out most of her scenes. (The deleted scene section for the X-Men DVD has lots of yummy Stormy goodness. Plus, she makes out with Kitty for ten minutes. Ok, no).

[paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com]

I have the DVD. I've seen the DVD.

I'm glad they cut her scenes from the main movie. The scenes in the DVD make it more obvious that she couldn't carry that accent any better than Kevin Costner could in Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves

[yud.livejournal.com]

I heard some random commentator on the radio saying that the reason why Catwoman did so poorly at the box office was because the main character was a woman, and boys don't like in when women are the main characters in action movies.

Oh well, it's not as painful as the argument as to why Soul Plane was such a flop. The excuse for that one is that two weeks before the movie opened, a screener copy appeared on the internet, so everyone watched that instead of seeing the movie in the theater.

[wal-lace.livejournal.com]

Yes. That would also explain why Kill Bill was such a spectacular box office failure. Except, you know, for the part where it wasn't.

There's stupid excuses, and then there's stupid excuses.

[paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com]

Yeah, and why the Alien movies with Sigourney Weaver as Ripley flopped so hard [I know about the third one. We do not speak of it].

And why Terminator 2 with Linda Hamilton failed so spectacularly.

Though the point does stand for things like, y'know...

Tank Girl
Barb Wire
Supergirl

*sigh*

[kkglinka.livejournal.com]

Hee. Tank Girl. I love the comic. One of my favorite scenes is where Tank Girl and company try magic themselves all to a public fair and they end up in someone's pubic hair, instead. It's like a Sprint commercial, only funnier.

[lots42.livejournal.com]

I figured one of the main reasons Soul Plane blew chunks is that making jokes and farting around on a 747 is just not that funny anymore.

[lots42.livejournal.com]

Stone thinks the Bush administration can stop lesbian kisses? Oy gevalt.


Shame about the movie. It had the potential of a ten year old Albert Einstien. But then ... 'Albert' was run over by a semi fifty times

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

Yeah, they can apparently stop lesbian kisses, but not three or four seasons of gay sex on "Queer as Folk".

[silent-sybil.livejournal.com]

aw, you should have called!

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

Isn't it sad that after two weeks of listening to that yutz, the thing that almost motivated me to call was ragging on Catwoman? (Then again, this is me, so it's actually pretty apt.)

[sabra-n.livejournal.com]

Uh-huh. And Hugh Jackman had nothing to do with the success of X-Men. Riiiight.