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[apocalypsos]

Hello, October surprise.

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[tenebris.livejournal.com]

*sighs* Shit.

[drewbeartx.livejournal.com]

Oh, but I'm sure that our President wouldn't do anything so blatant and underhanded in an effort to sway the electorate! I mean, he's a good and honest man who always thinks about what he does! [/wide-eyed naiveté]

Frankly, I'm surprised that anyone didn't see something like this coming.

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

And yet, you just know that there are going to be people who go, "Oh, I almost thought we'd never get him!" Or, on a more repulsive level, "So? What's it matter that we just got him?" I can't decide if that last reaction is naivete, arrogance, or blatant stupidity at work, but you know we're going to see it.

[shoiryu.livejournal.com]

What the... you're joking.

[thornsilver]

I wish I could dismiss it as a joke, but the way the things are going...

[anne-jumps.livejournal.com]

I saw that yesterday, but haven't seen it linked anywhere but that one place.

[jim-smith.livejournal.com]

Granting that it wouldn't shock me if we got an October surprise, I'll believe this when I see it. I mean, Osama bin Laden, the guy who'd rather sleep in caves than tolerate US intervention in the Middle East, the guy who's always surrounded by his most loyal followers so that he can be sure they'll shoot him before he's taken alive, the guy whose cause could only benefit from his martyrdom...

...is in negotiations to surrender?

To be honest, though, if Bush can nab him, I don't care if it's a cheap re-election ploy or not, as long as he's nabbed by somebody. Optimally I'd like to see Bush out of office and Osama in Gitmo, but if I can only have one I'll go with eliminating the bigger asshole.

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

I'll believe this when I see it.

I'll second that. And I'd choose Osama in Gitmo over Bush out of office any day of the week, although you just know that bastard's going to walk around like Draco Malfoy with his nose in the air for four more years if he does pull something like this off right before the election.

*sigh* I wish this election year was over with already.

[seferin.livejournal.com]

No. NO. FUCK NO. Better Osama free than BUSH IN POWER.

If Bush is re elected seizes power again, then all the torture, all the destruction of the environment, our liberties, the censorship becomes justified.

[paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com]

To quote ID4:

Ain't I been sayin' it? Yeah. I been sayin' it.

*sigh*

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't want either, but the problem is that both of them are these great evils that the other one can point to and say, "See?! See?! I was right about those evil terrorists/Americans!" If we get Osama, and we still have a growing terrorism problem, Bush loses a lot of ground even if he is still in office. (Hopefully.)

Of course, like dargie pointed out elsewhere, if he is really in China, the Chinese could not only make it very difficult for us to get him (and if I'm remembering that webpage where other countries could vote for the Presidential election, they'd be foolish to give him to Bush and get him re-elected, because they supported Kerry), but they could use having Osama as incentive to make us go after North Korea.

[kkglinka.livejournal.com]

*snort*

[cimarosa.livejournal.com]

1. What would China negotiate for? Maybe it's my overactive imagination working here, but all I can think is Taiwan. Taiwan Taiwan Taiwan.

(Alternatively, my overactive imagination is totally convinced that if there's any country who would deny up and down that they don't have him and they've never seen the guy in their lives up until like, the day after the election? It's China. They'd totally be all "Osama bin whowhatnow? Well if he's in China he ain't in this one.")

2. Bullocks to all this. Christ.

[doqz.livejournal.com]

North Korea is China's client. Kim depends on them for oil and they are deathly afraid of his regime collapsing because it would create a massive refugee problem for them.

[drewbeartx.livejournal.com]

As much as I hate to be critical of people I haven't met (Hey! It could happen...), the vast majority of humanity doesn't like to have to think. Thinking challenges dearly held assumptions, beliefs, and ideas, and besides which, it's easier to have someone else think for you.

~Sheep go to Heaven \ Goats go to Hell~

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

Urgh. Don't mind me ... I'm half distracted by having five different windows open (not to mention being irritated by any mention of Osama this close to the election), so if I was quoting wrong, my bad. What was said was, What scares me is that at some point they may ask us to intervene with N. Korea, and the last thing we need is a showdown with a nuclear power run by a lunatic. Not unlike our government, come to think of it.

[doqz.livejournal.com]

Now this is much more amorphous - fair disclaimer - but I would say that this scenario is unlikely. China is a very posessive regional power that has been benefiting substantially by the American concentration of Middle East rather than Southeast Asia, and judging by their reaction to the expansion of US bases in central Asia, they, like Russia, would do their utmost to minimize rather than expand US's role in their backyard.

[seferin.livejournal.com]

*shrug* Osama needs a security breach to cause us harm. Bush makes breaches.

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

You don't have to tell me twice, trust me. There was an article on the front page of the Washington papers the other day about how the Spanish terrorist attacks were done specifically a few days before the election to force out the government that helped invade Iraq.

Great, just what I need ... to live in the DC area right before this election. I'm going to be terrified to take public transportation for about a week before the election, I can see it now.

[seferin.livejournal.com]

No. You are safe. If they attack anyone, it will not be the politicians, and they are the weak link.

[lincolnkw.livejournal.com]

Wait, I could have sworn you predicted this AGES ago.

You're psychic!!

Quick, what lottery numbers should I pick?

[whispersinink.livejournal.com]

I love the word Bollucks.

[drewbeartx.livejournal.com]

The winning ones. ;p

[muffytaj.livejournal.com]

...

You know, sometimes the world is so stupid, it hurts.

[cimarosa.livejournal.com]

Isn't it lovely? So much fun to yell at the top of your lungs, and so versatile.

[erinlin.livejournal.com]

Every time I see your icon, I think "die kitten, die"

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

Dude, as many times as I've called Bush an asshat, the terrorists would have to be cloning kittens for slaughter 24/7 just to keep up.

[stevie-jane.livejournal.com]

It's "bollocks" by the way, "bullocks" are livestock, "bollocks is Brit swear-word for testicles.

[lots42.livejournal.com]

The Spanish govt. was talking about leaving Iraq long before the railroad attacks.

[lots42.livejournal.com]

I honestly don't believe that Bush or ANYONE would consider holding back capture of Osama (or revealing thereof) for any second longer then they had to.

Hell, if they were of the mind to do that, wouldn't they have done so with Saddam?

Besides, I don't think it's even POSSIBLE. All it takes is one person blabbing then the whole world will know an hour later.

[jim-smith.livejournal.com]

Oh, absolutely. If he wanted to do it, he'd have held onto Saddam instead of blowing his wad with that last year and hoping Osama would be available by now.

And yeah, if it's an October surprise, how come this guy in the report knows about it?

[jim-smith.livejournal.com]

Guy, a little perspective, please.

Bush wouldn't even have the half-assed justification he uses to do the crap he does, if it weren't for Osama in the first place. As long as 9/11 goes unavenged, guys like Bush will be using it to justify all sorts of crap, and Osama will keep plotting more acts to justify more crap.

I don't think it'll come down to a choice between one or the other. Personally I think we'll get bin Laden next term, whoever's president. But if I had to choose between stopping Bush or stopping Osama, I wouldn't waste my effort on the guy who's bound by term limits.

[nanomaya.livejournal.com]

As much as I'm willing to always believe the worst, it seems suspicious to me that no other news outlets have picked up on this. So, you know. Grain of salt?

[septembergrrl.livejournal.com]

Eeesh.

I'm trying to take it with a grain of salt, but ... I've been waiting for him to do something like this. I don't think I'll be able to *not* belive it until it's Novemebr third and no Bin Ladin (and, hopefully, President-Elect Kerry).

What I'm sorried about is that Sinclair "documentary." I think most people will recognize it for the irrelevant dirty trick it is, but if it bothers enough people in enough swing states...