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[apocalypsos]

Tell me we're not going to have to see that new opening bit every week.

Baby Isabelle? Still the cutest thing ever. Mmm-hmm. But Jordan singing to her is just a wee bit creepy.

Awwww. The little reunion with Shawn was actually pretty cute.

Is it bad I feel more sorry for Maia for having to see Jordan die than for Jordan actually having to die?

And I see Aunt April's still around. *sigh*

Yay! Marco! *flails*

I can't believe they would even bother telling him after everything he's done. And Jordan's snide little attitude makes me want to smack him upside the head. *glares at him*

Aw, poor Shawn. *cuddles him*

If I were Kyle, I'd ignore Danny before I ignored the whole blackout thing.

ACK. Jordan at the door? Way to scare a kid.

Okay, is Natasha Gregson-Wagner even wearing a bar in this scene?

He brought her a PS2? No! That's supposed to be Marco's doing, bringing Maia video games!

All right, that Maia commercial? Was really, really cool. :)

Oh, poor Heidi. It's gotta suck being her, and she didn't even realize it until now. Although yay for Lilly! (Then again, the way this show works, it's bound to bite her in the ass soon enough.)

Okay, this interview is scary enough without that ugly enough wallpaper border in the background.

Shawn, you sound just a wee bit scary when you talk about "the movement."

Uh-oh, Isabelle's jealous. She's probably about to make Heidi's head explode or something.

"Aunt April likes tall boys." *snerk* And yeah, Mom, how come you don't go out on dates? *coughMarcocough*

Her bosses want Maia's diary? That is so definitely not good.

Hee! Maia walking through the maternity ward was so cute. :)

Okay, Shawn with Liv is sweet and all, but she's really got a point the same way Jordan does.

And when the hell did Jordan become the official babysitter for Isabelle? Sheesh. Although that vision was severely fucked-up under all the happy music and bright lights.

It's not him, you dumbasses.

Yeah, Kyle, going to her apartment like that was creepy, so back off, okay?

Uh, Jordan's awfully calm for someone whose would-be assassin was just caught.

You know, I seriously do like Liv and Shawn together. Which of course means they'll probably stop seeing one another or she'll get hit by a bus tomorrow or something. (Except, ACK. No, Shawn, don't make her join your crazy cult!)

Okay, Jordan needs to stop playing with Isabelle and tickling Isabelle and pretty much going anywhere near Isabelle.

Oh, you've got to be kidding me. They're holding him back from Jordan? Nice to see Jordan's confidentiality agreement biting him in the ass.

Jesus, Shawn. Flip out just a little bit more, why don't you?

"She told me to go through with it. She lied." OOOOOOOOOOOOO. Isabelle's looking more and more evil by the minute.

Seriously, the Maia commercials are just so cool.

Oh, my God, Isabelle ruptured her spleen?! And the look on her face of, "What? What'd I do?" I'm not sure if she's doing it on purpose or just because she's a baby and she just doesn't know any better.

Shawn's doing the eulogy? Why is there not more slash for these two? Honestly, the only other time I can remember seeing a guy eulogize another guy just like this right off the top of my head is from Four Weddings And A Funeral.

Oh, this eulogy sounds so painful and genuine, even though it's about a friggin' cult in the making.

Somebody stole Jordan's body? The hell?

She tore up the subpoena? WOOHOO!

Oh, Shawn, you dope. I know you're busy, but for crying out loud ...

I swear to God, the longer this show goes on, the more confused I get.

This is one of those fandoms I have where I'm not as interested in what's happening now as I am in speculating about the future, like with Lost. Sort of the opposite of Doctor Who, where I just enjoy the ride and don't worry about the future. And then of course there's the fandoms like Veronica Mars, where I'm interested in both. :)

Comments

[spyderqueen.livejournal.com]

20 to 1 that Aunt April is going to end up trying to exploit Maia's visions on some level or another.

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

Oh, I don't doubt it for an instant. See, look, she's already trying to figure out her love life.

[spyderqueen.livejournal.com]

Her bosses want Maia's diary? That is so definitely not good

Well, they'll get to read her predicting this kinda crap. "Mommy's bosses will be punished for betraying us."

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

That's true. I can't wait to see them read that, although considering the way that NTAC works sometimes, it makes me wonder what they might do with that information.

[spyderqueen.livejournal.com]

HOLY FUCK!

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

*snerk* Which part?

[spyderqueen.livejournal.com]

The shooter.


And Jordan... matter energy conversion. I'm just sayin'

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

Oh, yeah, the shooter. I'm killing myself trying to figure out what the hell the Powers That Will Be are attempting to do with the 4400, because seriously, after tonight ... bwuh?

[illian.livejournal.com]

A friend just asked me to give a quick summation:

"It had revelations, subpoenas, discussion of parental dating, blacking out assassins, capitalist martyr whose body disappears, cutest evil baby evar!"

And you're right the Jordan/Shawn stuff is everywhere.

Although I expect right now one of the Powers is going "Now, Mr. Jordan, please remain calm. We kind of, uh, had you shot. But your all better now!"

[lizey.livejournal.com]

Do you know anything about this Eccleston-quits thing on Doctor Who? I'm terribly behind. Not only do I get late episodes (Australia whoo) but I'm slack about keeping up with such things as whether the main actor is sticking around...

[minisinoo.livejournal.com]

I have some theories on what's afoot. Not sure how much use "spoilers" are in comments, and they're not exactly spoilers since it just my theorizing, but I'll page down just in case.










Isabelle wasn't lying. Jordan (not Shawn) is your Christ figure. He'll be back. Next week is a holding episode -- "filler" -- but my theory is that he'll be back and his heretofore unrevealed power is the ability to rise from the dead. ;> All that talk of martyrs? Eyup. TPTB made sure he was shot so he could rise from the dead. Although he may not be coming back in a big, dramatic way, but more along the lines of the Gospel of Mark, where it's a "secret," at least for a while.

So anyway, that's my theory/spoiler. We'll see if my guess is anywhere near the target.

[foenix.livejournal.com]

Jordan was the force needed to get the cult going, a unified effort to guide the future of humanity to a better place. But he wasn't the one who would lead them. And every good cause needs a martyr to cement it's foundations.

[foenix.livejournal.com]

Oh! And that's also why Isabelle lied to Jordan. She wanted him to walk blindly and willingly into his death, knowing it would make things better in the end.

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

As far as I've heard, it wasn't that he quit so much as he just signed up for the one season.

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

Ooooooo. That could turn out interesting. Although you've got to admit, now that Shawn's made the cover of the newspaper as the 4400 healer ... well, if Jordan does rise from the dead, between the two of them, it'd certainly solidify their little cult fairly well.

[onlyseeingdark.livejournal.com]

Okay, holy crap, we're not friends, but someone linked me to the Scientology NOW! list and I ended up seeing this post and well, I don't know anyone else who obsesses over this show, so I had to comment.

This is one of those fandoms I have where I'm not as interested in what's happening now as I am in speculating about the future, like with Lost.

Me too. And as well, speculating about the past - like, okay, when Shawn was abducted, the Shiny Tentacles of Doom reached out for Kyle first and ended up with Shawn when he tried to fight the SToD. And it's my understanding that each person taken was specifically picked, you know, for a reason. So was the future altered when Shawn was sucked up into the light? Was Kyle meant to be Healer Boy instead of Spokesperson For Future Doom? Has the SFFD just been lying dormant in him for all this time?! Ah, the questions.

Also, the baby is totally evil. I've wondered if like, the Spokesperson For Future Doom invading Kyle and whatever the hell Isabelle is are on opposite sides of the team. Then again, yesterday's ep might've blown that out of the water. Sigh. Sorry for ranting in your comments! Most everyone on my own flist mainly looks at me, shakes their head and walks off.

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

I have this totally firm belief that Kyle was meant to be grabbed first and ripped away from the Tentacles of Doom by Shawn, specifically so that he could be used like he's being used now, which creeps me out because it means the Powers That Will Be were so lying on the beach at the end of last season. And if they were lying about that, what else were they lying about?

That's the thing. Either they're lying to the people in the past to placate them knowing full well that everything will turn out well in the end (another lie, since the Powers That Will Be claimed on the beach to Tom that the whole world was going all apocalyptic in the future) or this is all some sinister plot to screw with the human race. I'd like it to be the first, optimist that I am, but it could just as easily be the latter.

As for Isabelle ... well, hell, she could either be evil or just a confused infant, but considering what she's done so far with her powers -- getting those guys in the woods to kill themselves, giving Jordan those visions of the future -- they seem far too mature for her to simply be a kid who doesn't understand. (Which really scares me because if she's evil, that means she ruptured Heidi's spleen on purpose, and GAH.)

And feel free to rant about the show here. There aren't enough people watching it, honestly. *cuddles my lovable time-traveling super-powered show*

[misachan.livejournal.com]

Kyle is acting as the hand of TPTB, it seems. Not only is he losing time, but when he trances out he has access to knowledge and skills he doesn't have as normal Kyle (I don't believe for a second that Kyle has any idea how to take apart a rifle, and that was one heck of a shot).

I don't buy Kyle was supposed to be the one that got taken. If that was true, TPTB would have made sure to take him when he was alone, the way they did with apparently all of the other 4400. Instead, they tried to snatch him right in front of a witness, a witness who could then go home and tell everyone how his cousin was kidnapped by glowy sky tentacles. No way. I think they were testing Shawn; they were going to give someone the powers of life and death, and they wanted to make sure it wouldn't be someone who would blatantly abuse them. Shawn tried selflessly to save Kyle, and I bet that's what they were looking for. Meanwhile, they keep Kyle, both because they need a tool besides Isabelle and because I do think Tom is important, and this keeps him connected.

Jordan's coming back, obviously, and eventually we'll see whether this is Jordan's power, something latent Isabelle did, or perhaps Shawn's power developing. At any rate, I feel horrible for Shawn, and at the same time felt a chill when Liv came out cult-ified. It's only going to get worse for Shawn, too; that last scene had to be a deliberate echo of the final scene from The Godfather (in fact, this whole Jordan/Shawn/Kyle dynamic is very Godfather).

[minisinoo.livejournal.com]

Yup. There's a lot of Christian/religious imagery floating around. They're not following an exact pattern, and one can see Christ elements in both characters, so it's hard to guess, but the body missing from the coffin, etc.

Also did you notice that the picture of Jordan that was hung up had an older Jordan with gray hair? Obviously he took it to mean he'd get old (and not be killed), but between Kyle shooting him and the missing body, I figure it points to the fact he'll be back, not that Isabelle lied.

Though that kid is really creepy. Given what she can do now, it's scary to think what she's going to be like in the Terrible Twos. Can you imagine? They need to find someone, fast, who can get away with disciplining her, because one has to. Kids pitch tantrums, scream and yell and hit you, and tell you they hate you, and you still have to send them to their room until they're over it. 8}

[bailunrui.livejournal.com]

After the whole parental dating discussion thing I have this plot bunny of Maia doing a Parent Trap thing-a-majig with Marco and Diana. Now it is eating my brain.

Jordan is so not dead. Did we learn nothing from Buffy?

Kyle is starting to freak me out, as is Isabelle. Neither has the capacity to control his or her actions. Eep!

[paradoxymoron.livejournal.com]

did you realize a lot of 'artifact'-ing during the show?
i was watching it on a 13 inch tv (CRT, not LCD), and the thing looked like I was staring at an LCD monitor at a bad angle.

All of the black was doing that "LCD at-an-angle thing" THE ENTIRE SHOW. Just during the show, not commercials or any other channels.