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I'm watching Ultimate Super Vixens, which is goddamn killing me, and not in a good way. The description on the TV guide says it's for superheroines, but right now, Madonna's version of Breathless Mahoney just made #10. *headshake*

#9 is Princess Leia, though, which kind of makes up for it.

I was hoping Sarah would make the list (don't I always?), but Halle Berry as Storm was somewhere around #15, so I don't exactly have the highest expectations anymore.

So here's a good question -- who are your favorite butt-kicking chicks? God knows we can probably come up with a much better list. ;)

EDIT: Ripley was #6? Really? Well, there's three more and I haven't seen Sarah yet, so I'm actually getting more optimistic. :) (She'd better be in the top three, damn it. #4 is Lara Croft, for crying out loud.)

OTHER EDIT: Catwoman was #1. Okay, I can get behind that. Ignoring the moronic movie, Catwoman is awesome enough to make my "Where the hell was Sarah Connor?!" reaction lessen. (She had better have at least been earlier on the list, then, because Felicity fucking Shagwell made the list somewhere around #12, and I'm sorry, but ... the fuck?!)

ANNOYED EDIT: Okay, I see why Sarah didn't make the list. Because you had to kick ass AND be some man's fantasy doing it. *eye roll*

Good question.

Date: 2005-10-25 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redhawk.livejournal.com
For me, it's got to be Susan Ivanova and Ellen Ripley.

Redhawk

Date: 2005-10-25 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolimir-k.livejournal.com
Sarah Conner (Terminator)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape)
Vasquez (Aliens)

Date: 2005-10-25 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rani23.livejournal.com
River
Aeryn
Starbuck

Ass-kickers, all of 'em. :)

Re: Good question.

Date: 2005-10-25 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolimir-k.livejournal.com
I totally forgot about susan Ivanova. She definitely needs to be on the list. *g*

Date: 2005-10-25 08:34 pm (UTC)
ext_1310: (important)
From: [identity profile] musesfool.livejournal.com
Eowyn, Princess Leia, Scully, Sarah Connor, Ripley, Buffy, Faith, Cordelia, Zoe, CJ, McGonagall, Hermione, Sydney Bristow, Irina Derevko...

Date: 2005-10-25 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Oh, Aeryn. If watching Farscape reruns on Saturdays has done anything for me, it's remind me how much I adore Aeryn. :)

Re: Good question.

Date: 2005-10-25 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redhawk.livejournal.com
Oh hell yes! ;)

Sharon "Boomer" Valerii might be a good candidate.

Redhawk

Date: 2005-10-25 08:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2005-10-25 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maryavatar.livejournal.com
Rommie from Andromeda is a favourite of mine. Except for that unfortunate half season with the blue wig.

Date: 2005-10-25 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitterdemon.livejournal.com
buffy
faith
starbuck
river
zoe
aeryn

Date: 2005-10-25 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insidian.livejournal.com
W-w-w-wait JUST a minute, there!

Let me get this straight: Halle Berry's Storm is a bigger bad ass than Rebecca Romijn-Stamos's Mystique?

*blink*

WHAT THE FRICK?

Illyria, Beatrix Kiddo (heck, ALL of Bill's Ladies, but especially O-Ren), Eowyn, River, Zoe, and if she gets a name, she gets a mention, so Vera. ;)

Date: 2005-10-25 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinlin.livejournal.com
Rachel of the Animorphs.

Date: 2005-10-25 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitterdemon.livejournal.com
woe! how could i have forgotten eowyn? :((

Date: 2005-10-25 08:42 pm (UTC)
liliaeth: (Default)
From: [personal profile] liliaeth
oops, got this mixed up with [livejournal.com profile] sages_of_chaos, sorry

Date: 2005-10-25 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitterdemon.livejournal.com
i would also say that yosafbrig deserves a mention as well. *g*

Date: 2005-10-25 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Let me get this straight: Halle Berry's Storm is a bigger bad ass than Rebecca Romijn-Stamos's Mystique?

You read my mind. Just ... GYAH. *scrubs comparison from brain*

Buffy is #3. Come on, Sarah Connor ... *crosses fingers*

Date: 2005-10-25 08:46 pm (UTC)
liliaeth: (Default)
From: [personal profile] liliaeth
Buttkickingwise, there's Buffy, Amanda from Highlander, Rose from Doctor Who, and well, can't think of too many more that I actually like to watch.

Date: 2005-10-25 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] singeaddams.livejournal.com
DOROTHY GAIL!

Re: Good question.

Date: 2005-10-25 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milkshake-b.livejournal.com
"God sent me."

One of the best ass-kicking speeches ever. (Though Delenn's, "He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else," ranks pretty high, too.)

Date: 2005-10-25 08:54 pm (UTC)
newredshoes: possum, "How embarrassing!" (sword in hand)
From: [personal profile] newredshoes
Zoe, Eowyn, Mystique definitely seconded... also, let's not forget Tank Girl!

Date: 2005-10-25 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wal-lace.livejournal.com
Faith, obviously. But for stuff like this she always gets ignored in favour of Buffy. Why Buffy? Hells, even Willow kicked more ass than Buffy.

Felicity Shagwell is just stupid. She was lamer than any Bond Girl, and that's a list that includes Tanya Roberts and Denise Richards. They'd better have had at least one Michelle Yeoh role in the top five.

Oh, and Wonder Woman has to be in there. On a geekier level, Fire and Psylocke. I seem to have a fondness for supermodel-secret agent types with weird-coloured hair.

Date: 2005-10-25 09:02 pm (UTC)
ext_1310: (eowyn)
From: [identity profile] musesfool.livejournal.com
She's always my number one on these lists. *g*

Date: 2005-10-25 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teenygozer.livejournal.com
Please tell me that it was NOT the Halle Berry version of Catwoman that won... I don't care if it was the Michelle Pfeiffer version, or Julie Newmar, or even Eartha Kitt... as long as it wasn't Halle Berry.

Date: 2005-10-25 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
No, it was just the general version of Catwoman as a character that made it. The bad part was that between Storm, Catwoman, and the Bond girls at #2, Halle Berry made the list three times. *growls*

A thought...

Date: 2005-10-25 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telaryn.livejournal.com
I think the problem is that we're thinking of vixen in the terms of "butt-kicking", but there's an innate sex appeal involved in the terminology that may not translate in Sarah's situation.

Looking at what I can see of the list, we're talking about characters who while they may be heroes/villains/desperately cool in their own right are largely the "Who's Who" of adolescent male fantasies over the past couple of decades.

If they'd gone with an "Ultimate Heroines" instead of "Ultimate Vixens" we might have a case. (and a more interesting show in my opinion).

Did you see Austin freaking Powers is on the Ultimate Heroes list however? Major crack smoking going on here.

Date: 2005-10-25 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telaryn.livejournal.com
And as far as my thoughts on ass-kicking chicks, I really can't do much more than direct people to my icon page. :)

Re: A thought...

Date: 2005-10-25 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Did you see Austin freaking Powers is on the Ultimate Heroes list however? Major crack smoking going on here.

Yes, but they did follow it up with the Tick, which was a nice surprise. :)

Then again, Daredevil is coming up?! I mean, the comic version, maybe, but the movie version? *mind boggles*

Date: 2005-10-25 09:38 pm (UTC)
ext_15915: (StormBringer (D42))
From: [identity profile] wiredwizard.livejournal.com
20)Illyria
19)Starbuck
18)Beatrix Kiddo
17)Jadzia Dax
16)Max (Dark Angel)
15)Col. Wilma Deering
14)Ellen Ripley
13)Amanda (Highlander)
12)Maj. Samantha Carter
11)Alice Abernathy (Resident Evil)
10)Sarah Connor
9) Eowyn
8) Princess Leia
7) Emma Peel (original Diana Rigg version)
6) Faith
5) Rommie
4) Willow Rosenberg
3) Dizzy Flores
2) Special Agent Dana Scully
1) Xena

Date: 2005-10-25 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sizequeen.livejournal.com
VASQUEZ!!! Now, she was the shiznit.

Hudson: Have you ever been mistaken for a man?

Vasquez: No. Have you?

Frosty: Vasquez, you're just too bad.

Vasquez: ::slaps his face in a comradely fashion::

Date: 2005-10-25 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sizequeen.livejournal.com
Top 20 Ass Kickers:

Elen Ripley
Sarah Connor
Nancy Thompson (the heroine from the first Nightmare on Elm Street) She managed to beat Freddy Krueger with nothing but moxie and imagination.
Buffy
Faith
Starbuck
President Laura Roslin (she can kick your ass with *words*
Six (battlestar Galctica)
Beatrix Kiddo
Batgirl Cassandra Cain
Lady Shiva (DC Comics)
Oracle/Ex-Batgirl Barbara Gordon
River Tam
Zoe
Wonder Woman (I mean, the accesories alone...)
Scully (kicks ass in three inch heels)
Colonel Kira Nerys


Date: 2005-10-25 10:27 pm (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
Ekaterin Nile Vorvayne Vorsoisson Vorkosigan.

Destroys superweapons. Thwarts terrorists. Refuses to be taken for granted. Smacks down political slander. Refuses to be intimidated.

Date: 2005-10-25 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darxide.livejournal.com
I'm watching the Ultimate Super Villians show now... also disappointing. I'm almost afraid to see who's going to be #1...

Date: 2005-10-25 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darxide.livejournal.com
Unless it's Hannibal Lector. Then I'll be okay with this entire thing...

(Sorry for the double-post)

Re: A thought...

Date: 2005-10-25 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wal-lace.livejournal.com
... There are people out there who don't find Sarah Connor attractive?

Okay, that's it. I'm making a 'Dude, WTF?' icon.

Re: A thought...

Date: 2005-10-25 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telaryn.livejournal.com
Sarah crosses that invisible societal line that for many people still says that a babe with a gun is "hawt", but a woman who not only has a gun, but a grenade, a rocket launcher, several bombs, and worse -- knows how to use them -- is a freak.

Sex isn't the endgame for Sarah. And being a vixen requires too much game playing...also not her thing.

Now personally? The character fascinates the heck out of me on all levels -- always has.

But I see a lot of people that just don't know what to do with her.

Date: 2005-10-25 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-jackalope.livejournal.com
oh, yea I totally second this. My Oz love knows no bounds.

Date: 2005-10-26 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabra-n.livejournal.com
Silly nilly. Don't you know a female ass-kicker doesn't exist as such until she has a D-Cup?

Anyway, Agent 355 of Y: The Last Man is a world-class buttkicker. In fact, that series is filled with strong women. Natalya and Alter, for a start.

Also, leaving comics land, Veronica Mars. Though she won't so much beat you up as make you wish she had. :)

-blue

Date: 2005-10-26 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okelle.livejournal.com
That whole series was on crack. I missed Vixens but caught the tail end of Heroes and all of Villains. Spiderman number one???? And how is it that Spiderman villains rank higher than Magneto? He was WAY cooler.

Date: 2005-10-26 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinlin.livejournal.com
What did you say? I missed the original post.

Date: 2005-10-26 06:19 am (UTC)
liliaeth: (Default)
From: [personal profile] liliaeth
was just too tired to take a good look at the post and since this is the kind of question usually asked on Sages, I kinda responded as Spike*eg*

I blame that icon,I tell ya...

Date: 2005-10-26 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinlin.livejournal.com
Fear the power of Sexy Ax!

Date: 2005-10-26 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aboulic2.livejournal.com
Hmm...

How about Leela from Doctor Who? For a finale she took down the timelords, the most advanced humanoids in the universe, with nothing more than a sheath knife.

And thinking of characters who are a touch savage or feral, how about Victoria Pratt's character in Mutant X? Pretty much anything played by Victoria Pratt is worthy of getting on the list

Date: 2005-10-28 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] singeaddams.livejournal.com
The Wicked Witch of the West pwns everybody.

Date: 2005-10-28 04:22 pm (UTC)

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