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apocalypsosSo I'm back from X3. I think I agree with what my brother said to me -- "The first two movies were good. This one was entertaining." Which amused the hell out of me, because it perfectly summed up what I thought -- that is, I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it like the first two, that's for damn sure -- but it definitely didn't sound like something he came up with. Heh. :)
Anyway, I've already seen a few people saying they aren't really fic-inspired after this, which is understandable, but the story ideas I want to write are mostly stuff that I should have seen on that screen and would have in the first two movies. Warren getting to do something. (Because he could have just been a pair of wings on a stick and he would have been as useful as he was with what they gave him to do. *sigh*) More Scott stuff. Bobby and Hank interacting. Jean doing something other than being a prop. Actual introductions for Jamie Madrox and Juggernaut instead of Infodumpadaviddas. What happened to Mystique after the scene in the truck when Magneto left her. (That's the one sticking in my brain like crazy, especially considering what the ending means for the future of their relationship. And I never have had much of an urge to write either character, but REALLY.)
Although, for any complaints I may have, I had complete and total fangasm moments when Hank said, "Oh, my stars and garters," and when Bobby turned into ice. BOBBY TURNED INTO ICE. I know others have complained about the effect, but considering the amount of obvious green screen I was seeing, that made me SO happy. I need that as an icon YESTERDAY. It doesn't even need a caption. Hell, fuck the caption. I just need movieverse!Bobby all iced up. Yeah, I'm going overboard. DON'T CARE.
You know what? Let me just break this down by character. It'll make it easier for me.
Charles: Jesus, when the hell did Xavier become such a bastard? I mean ... I don't know. I'm not exactly sure if it was that he was being a bastard or that his lines were written so badly that it just sounded like he was a bastard. I didn't like his dialogue at ALL. I got where he was coming from, but every word he said made me want to punch him in the face.
Erik: I really did like Magneto in this movie more than I liked most of the X-Men, which is just annoying. Not that I want to hate Magneto. What I want is to be able to see both sides of the argument, and in this movie I had such a hard time doing that, even when Erik was doing stuff like turning his back on Mystique. I got where he was coming from most of the time, more than I did with some of the things Charles was doing.
Charles/Erik: If that scene at the Grey house wasn't canon establishing them as a couple, I don't know what is. It's called personal space, boys. Try it sometime.
Logan: I hated Logan when he was crying, which took up WAY too much screentime for Logan, and loved him when he was kicking ass and making out with Jean. And that last part is just odd, because if I'm remembering correctly, even now with this third movie, Logan and Jean have still only known each other a matter of days. *shrugs*
Storm: I was spoiled for the whole movie, and yet I still sat around every time they killed someone thinking, "Okay, so Storm's next, right? Right?
Jean (and by extension, Scott): When she dropped the house, I absolutely did not think, "Wow, property values in this neighborhood are dropping." *shifty eyes* Anyway, I just would have been happier if Scott had been there. Hell, I think the whole storyline would have worked better if Scott were there, and while I get why they couldn't use him, THIS is yet another reason why they should have held off on shooting for a while. They rushed out the movie as if the fans weren't about to wait, and guess what? We were. We totally were ready to. Where else are we going to get a new X-Men movie? If they want to make it as good as the other two, then by all means, WAIT. If you can't have James Marsden for the Dark Phoenix storyline for a month or two, WAIT. The whole thing just felt wrong without him there.
Angel and Colossus: I've got the same complaint for both. They had them, and they barely used them.
Rogue: Okay, if Rogue was trying to make me want Bobby to go with Kitty, then she was doing a hell of a job. And speaking of not really making good use of a character --- jealous, jealous, jealous, OMG FAUX ABORTION CLINIC, human! Did I or did I not just sum up Rogue's entire screentime right there?
Bobby: *cuddles* I, um, am tempted to write Bobby/Kitty. HELP ME.
Kitty: How awesome was Kitty? THIS AWESOME. Yay!
Beast: I think the best compliment I can give Kelsey Grammer is that he did a really great job with what they gave him. The problem is that what they gave him needed work. First off, he should have been computer-generated, or at the very least have had better makeup. It wasn't as good as it could have been. (On the other hand, what they did computer-generate in this movie was dreadful.) And secondly, Hank didn't get nearly enough opportunities to show his sense of humor, his wit, his ability to have fun. See, that's why I'm craving Bobby and Hank friendship fic -- because the Hank that was onscreen could possibly have been the same Hank that I can believe plays tricks and teases and goes for Twinkie runs, and I wanted to see that.
Mystique: I know I've read too much fanfic because when Mystique turned into the little girl, I thought, "Annie Creed!" And then I flailed in my brain. ;) But she's the one I most want to write post-X3 fic about. Go figure.
In other news, I really want to make a T-shirt that says something like, "Making fun of somebody's tattoos is begging for a punch from someone who likes pain," or, "I love my tattoos, so FUCK OFF." You know, something subtle I can wear to family gatherings. ;)
Anyway, I've already seen a few people saying they aren't really fic-inspired after this, which is understandable, but the story ideas I want to write are mostly stuff that I should have seen on that screen and would have in the first two movies. Warren getting to do something. (Because he could have just been a pair of wings on a stick and he would have been as useful as he was with what they gave him to do. *sigh*) More Scott stuff. Bobby and Hank interacting. Jean doing something other than being a prop. Actual introductions for Jamie Madrox and Juggernaut instead of Infodumpadaviddas. What happened to Mystique after the scene in the truck when Magneto left her. (That's the one sticking in my brain like crazy, especially considering what the ending means for the future of their relationship. And I never have had much of an urge to write either character, but REALLY.)
Although, for any complaints I may have, I had complete and total fangasm moments when Hank said, "Oh, my stars and garters," and when Bobby turned into ice. BOBBY TURNED INTO ICE. I know others have complained about the effect, but considering the amount of obvious green screen I was seeing, that made me SO happy. I need that as an icon YESTERDAY. It doesn't even need a caption. Hell, fuck the caption. I just need movieverse!Bobby all iced up. Yeah, I'm going overboard. DON'T CARE.
You know what? Let me just break this down by character. It'll make it easier for me.
Charles: Jesus, when the hell did Xavier become such a bastard? I mean ... I don't know. I'm not exactly sure if it was that he was being a bastard or that his lines were written so badly that it just sounded like he was a bastard. I didn't like his dialogue at ALL. I got where he was coming from, but every word he said made me want to punch him in the face.
Erik: I really did like Magneto in this movie more than I liked most of the X-Men, which is just annoying. Not that I want to hate Magneto. What I want is to be able to see both sides of the argument, and in this movie I had such a hard time doing that, even when Erik was doing stuff like turning his back on Mystique. I got where he was coming from most of the time, more than I did with some of the things Charles was doing.
Charles/Erik: If that scene at the Grey house wasn't canon establishing them as a couple, I don't know what is. It's called personal space, boys. Try it sometime.
Logan: I hated Logan when he was crying, which took up WAY too much screentime for Logan, and loved him when he was kicking ass and making out with Jean. And that last part is just odd, because if I'm remembering correctly, even now with this third movie, Logan and Jean have still only known each other a matter of days. *shrugs*
Storm: I was spoiled for the whole movie, and yet I still sat around every time they killed someone thinking, "Okay, so Storm's next, right? Right?
Jean (and by extension, Scott): When she dropped the house, I absolutely did not think, "Wow, property values in this neighborhood are dropping." *shifty eyes* Anyway, I just would have been happier if Scott had been there. Hell, I think the whole storyline would have worked better if Scott were there, and while I get why they couldn't use him, THIS is yet another reason why they should have held off on shooting for a while. They rushed out the movie as if the fans weren't about to wait, and guess what? We were. We totally were ready to. Where else are we going to get a new X-Men movie? If they want to make it as good as the other two, then by all means, WAIT. If you can't have James Marsden for the Dark Phoenix storyline for a month or two, WAIT. The whole thing just felt wrong without him there.
Angel and Colossus: I've got the same complaint for both. They had them, and they barely used them.
Rogue: Okay, if Rogue was trying to make me want Bobby to go with Kitty, then she was doing a hell of a job. And speaking of not really making good use of a character --- jealous, jealous, jealous, OMG FAUX ABORTION CLINIC, human! Did I or did I not just sum up Rogue's entire screentime right there?
Bobby: *cuddles* I, um, am tempted to write Bobby/Kitty. HELP ME.
Kitty: How awesome was Kitty? THIS AWESOME. Yay!
Beast: I think the best compliment I can give Kelsey Grammer is that he did a really great job with what they gave him. The problem is that what they gave him needed work. First off, he should have been computer-generated, or at the very least have had better makeup. It wasn't as good as it could have been. (On the other hand, what they did computer-generate in this movie was dreadful.) And secondly, Hank didn't get nearly enough opportunities to show his sense of humor, his wit, his ability to have fun. See, that's why I'm craving Bobby and Hank friendship fic -- because the Hank that was onscreen could possibly have been the same Hank that I can believe plays tricks and teases and goes for Twinkie runs, and I wanted to see that.
Mystique: I know I've read too much fanfic because when Mystique turned into the little girl, I thought, "Annie Creed!" And then I flailed in my brain. ;) But she's the one I most want to write post-X3 fic about. Go figure.
In other news, I really want to make a T-shirt that says something like, "Making fun of somebody's tattoos is begging for a punch from someone who likes pain," or, "I love my tattoos, so FUCK OFF." You know, something subtle I can wear to family gatherings. ;)
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Date: 2006-05-31 01:16 pm (UTC)BTW, how do you think they handled Pyro? I thought it seemed like kind of a quick switch from "reluctant student" to "I would have killed the Professor myself."
And I agree, Charles was a complete dick. I don't use my powers for evil, unless I'm locking up a small child in mental shackles without ever telling her about them for 20 years. I don't have to explain myself, least of all to you, you dumb Canadian who's in love with this woman and WHO HAD HIS MEMORY BRAINWASHED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
Yeah, that's sweet of you, Chuck. And of COURSE it's Wolverine's fault that Phoenix escaped. After all, you had her laying in an empty room without any restraints. What a moron for touching her arm.
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Date: 2006-06-02 11:43 am (UTC)Actually, it could have been worse; in the novel, Pyro starts whining when Bobby defeats him at Alcatraz - he actually says 'It's not fair'. Huh? If John had any tendency to whine (rather than express anger through blowing shit up), Erik would have gotten rid of that within weeks after Pyro jumped ship to the Brotherhood. Literally removing the tendency by force, if necessary.
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Date: 2006-06-02 02:43 pm (UTC)For a long while, the Brotherhood was Magneto, Mystique, and Pyro. After Mystique was de-powered, Pyro probably saw himself as becoming Erik's new right-hand man, a role that was quickly snatched away from him by Callisto before he even had the chance to be anything more than a glorified clipboard carrier. Hell, even Juggernaut came in for the new powerhouse role, a role he probably thought belonged to him when Magneto told him he was "a god among insects." Did Erik even bring him to the Greys house during the big house-dropping? I've only seen it twice so far, and I wasn't paying particular attention beyond Juggy v. Wolvie and Callisto v. Storm.
If you wanna get psychological, you could say that Pyro was trying to over-compensate while trying to show Erik that he was still important in the new Brotherhood.
You COULD get psychological. Unfortunately, I don't think the writers were aiming for that goal.