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Hey, guess what I just watched?

Oh, Dick.

I'm holding on desperately to the fact that with these big season-long mysteries, it's never who it looks like at first, because right now it totally looks like Dick. Yay for possible exoneration through implied guilt!

What? I like Dick, damn it. He's fucked up and a big jerk and needs a smack upside the head and yet I'm completely rooting for him to come out of this whole thing ... well, not a model citizen or anything, but definitely more mature than he was.

Also, if they make Mac and Dick canon, I will love Rob Thomas like candy. CANDY, I TELL YOU.

I do not already have Mac/Dick mistake sex fic in my head. I don't. *trembles*

I still love Veronica and Logan together, God help me, but Piz is kind of adorable. The whole Beaverton thing, and the sweater, and toasting with Veronica when they caught the culprit ... WHEE! He can totally become the new Scooby. "She's our age and she's a detective? Is she a cartoon, too?" Oh, my God, I'm so keeping him.

Even though I understood why Veronica and Mac were annoyed by Parker, I got a little tired of her getting the stink-eye towards the end of the episode, even though I saw what was coming from the time Veronica went into the room to get the tickets. Dude, in my three years at college, each of my roommates were waaaaaay worse than that. So she's a little ... uh, without boundaries. She was really nice other than that. Remind me to tell about the bitchy girl I roomed with third year who only spoke about thirty words to me from September to May. (Actually, that's pretty much the whole story.)

I can't talk about Keith right now without feeling abject terror.

Date: 2006-09-26 10:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] maleyka.livejournal.com
I LOVE DICK. Er, Casablancas. And, Mac/Dick? I'd be ALL over that. That would be an AWESOME pairing. (Possibly second only to my imaginary Sam/Mac (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n232/maleyka/Jaaared2003.jpg) crack crossover.)

I was entirely bewildered by Keith's whole subplot. What was he doing driving a Fitzpatrick around? And why did that dude shoot Kendall, wtf?

Date: 2006-09-26 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanberries.livejournal.com
And now thinking back, I'm wondering if he did shoot her. It could have been a setup so Keith thought that! Er? !!

Dammit, my brain is being et, and I don't even watch the show...

Date: 2006-09-27 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabra-n.livejournal.com
What I'm still trying to comprehend is...well, if the whole thing was a setup, and Cormac just wanted to kill Kendall, take all the money, and run off on his own...why didn't he just wait until Keith was gone? He could have waited to kill Kendall until they were in whatever beachy country they were going to, and Keith (the only one in on his plan) would have been none the wiser. Totally clean getaway, and no need for another potentially messy murder.

-blue, confuzzled

Date: 2006-09-26 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanberries.livejournal.com
That was the first ep of this I'd ever seen, actually...

And I'm still a bit 'hm.'

But god, do I love Veronica. 'Munchkins' HEE!

Date: 2006-09-26 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
The first two seasons are definitely worth picking up. The second season had a bit of a sophomore slump, but the first season was some of the best television I've ever seen.

Veronica is awesome. And also conveniently pocket-sized for easy transportation. ;)

Date: 2006-09-26 11:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bcgphoenix
Man...I don't know. The idea of Mac/Dick still makes me cringe. Maybe a little less than it did before I saw this episode, yeah, but mostly? I'm just completely baffled by it.

As much as I like Dick as the amoral, one-dimensional jerk, though, seeing him grow up a bit would not be unwelcome. *grins*

Date: 2006-09-26 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penyn-1600.livejournal.com
Dick! I don't think Dick's the culprit. I think the poor guy just doesn't know how to deal with the loss of his brother, so he's acting out. But I don't think he's the guy behind all those rapes.

Piz is adorable! *<3*

Logan was totally letting Piz silently know that Veronica was his girlfriend. *loffs Logan*

If I don't get the CW this season, I'm gonna cry.

Date: 2006-09-26 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Piz is so freakin' cute, and he doesn't have to worry about Wallace being better-looking than him. (They're BOTH good-looking. *snuggles Wallace*) Veronica is totally allowed to fight with Logan mid-season over Dick possibly being the Hearst rapist and go out with Piz. Can't you just see it coming, really? ;)

Date: 2006-09-27 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penyn-1600.livejournal.com
:D I can totally see Veronica doing that. She likes Piz...you could tell that she regretted hurting his feelings when she and Logan smooched right in front of him.

Date: 2006-09-26 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
AIGH KEITH

i was all set to do a reasonable reply to yor points and then

AIGH KEITH

Date: 2006-09-26 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I KNOW!

And yet, at the same time I think, "ACK, KEITH!", I end up thinking, "ACK, VERONICA!" Because she thinks he's going after a bail jumper and she has no idea where he is, and ... and ...

*whimper*

Date: 2006-09-27 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
what the sweet b'jeezus is he DOING out there? was that a fitzpatrick? WHAT WAS IN THE FUCKING SUITCASE? i don't buy that it was just a big pile of money; keith mars cannot be bought.

i think i need the last few episodes of s2 again, man, i'm so lost.

but pizz is awesome. and dick is SO not the hearst rapist, that's ridonkulous.

is francis capra out this season? OH WEEVIL NOES. *cry*

Date: 2006-09-27 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I don't buy Dick as the Hearst rapist regardless of what Cassidy's death put him through. Dick follows the path of least resistance even now. He's not the guy who rapes you and then shaves your head -- that's too much work even for him. He slips you roofies and lets you think you got too wasted and had mistake sex with him.

Meanwhile, Piz and his crush on Veronica make me absurdly giddy for some reason. It's Neptune. There's got to be something wrong with him.

I take it as a good sign of Weevil's continued presence on the show that Francis Capra's still in the credits. (And speaking of the credits, OMG I want the old ones back! I mean, these aren't bad, but ... but ... those were my favorites, damn it.)

Date: 2006-09-27 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
i'm with you 100% with dick. big moron. although i do wonder what he DID, exactly. he got kicked out of residence, okay, but that can't be a terrible problem for him, all the fat loot from his dad.

you're totally right about neptune, man. there are rules to a film noir, and rule #1 is that everyone's corrupt. something's DEFINITELY wrong with mister oklahoma. unless he's an ingenue! :D even so, man, there's gotta be a dark past or something.

i checked imdb, and yeah, he's still there. whew! god, i love weevil so much. i totally miss him. i have a theory that veronica will explain to the admins that being forced to mentor a girl is sexist and dumb, and will wind up "mentoring" weevil, by which i mean partering up with him on cases sometimes. *clappy hands*

I LOVE PROFESSOR LANDRY. he is so trouble. he's gonna be the rapist or something, something awful and terrible and giant. or maybe his TA is the rapist! aigh, i can't wait. veronica's so gonna wind up looking up to el professor and then having it yanked out from under her, wheeeee, i can't wait.

Date: 2006-09-27 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I think it's less that he can't afford a place and more that he doesn't want to live alone. His dad is gone, his mom is gone, Kendall ran off, and Cassidy ... well, it's always been Dick and Beaver. Now it's just Dick. He needs companionship right now, but he's been too stubborn to let Logan be his friend. So instead he went off and got wasted and did a bunch of dumb shit because he didn't have anyone to run interference.

Landry's TA creeps me out. Either that's the worst haircut on the planet or the ugliest wig I've seen in months.

I wish I'd had a Professor Landry. Maybe if I'd majored in crim instead. *sigh*

Date: 2006-09-27 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
welllll, maybe. i'll grant you he's all alone now, which is kind of sad. but i suspect he did something much stupider than just his standard issue stupid shit, y'know? otherwise it wouldn't break him like it did.

landry and the ta will totally be pivotal plot points for the season arc, i'll wager.

man, i love this show, there's so much IN it.

Date: 2006-09-27 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's true. God knows he wouldn't have cracked like that in front of Logan if he hadn't.

If you would have told me in season one that I'd feel this sorry for Dick Casablancas, I would have looked at you like you were deranged. Oh, Dick. He probably did something unforgivable and I just want to hug him and tell him everything will be okay.

I cannot wait to see what Landry and the TA are up to. *rubs hands together*

man, i love this show, there's so much IN it.

I know! I love the plots and the characters and the dialogue and Daddy Mars and that sweater that apparently contains Veronica-catching pheremones and the fact that Backup is babysitting.

Date: 2006-09-27 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanberries.livejournal.com
I cannot wait to see what Landry and the TA are up to. *rubs hands together*

See, when you put it like that, you just make me think 'sekrit love affair yay!'

Date: 2006-09-27 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabra-n.livejournal.com
Landry's TA creeps you out because...he's Lucky. No, really. It's the same actor who played Lucky last season. o_O

Maybe Landry himself really will be a positive figure. They tried to have a "good" teacher in S1, and Clemmons turned out to be awesome in S2. And Rob Thomas was a teacher. And maybe not every character needs to be sinister right away. :)

-blue

Date: 2006-10-04 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penmage.livejournal.com
Why the hell did they do that? I am confused.

Date: 2006-09-26 11:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sabotabby
Eeek! I am envious, as I'm still a season-and-a-bit behind all the squee. How can I resist downloading?

Date: 2006-09-26 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astrothsknot.livejournal.com
When does it air? I've just bought both seasons of VM and now I'm trying to convert my mother

Date: 2006-09-27 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Tuesdays on the CW after the Gilmore Girls. The premiere's supposed to be on October 3. *crosses fingers that said premiere will be showing on my cable affiliate*

Date: 2006-09-27 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabra-n.livejournal.com
It hasn't even crossed my mind that Dick is the rapist. I guess that he'd have the proximity despite going to Neptune High up until now, but geez. Totally not his style.

-blue

Date: 2006-09-27 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Exactly, but even now the circumstantial evidence is pretty heavy. He lives in the area and has for a while, he went to the rally for that nice drunken display in the speedo, he showed up at Logan's looking trashed and claiming to have done something bad, he's been to Parker and Mac's room and obviously knew Parker previously, and I have a sneaking suspicion a rape kit's going to turn up his DNA, although I'm pretty sure it'll be a case of him having consensual sex with her and THEN her getting attacked by the Hearst rapist.

Oh, he is in so much trouble, the poor broken asshat.

Date: 2006-09-27 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obeetaybee.livejournal.com
I watched it last night, had to wait awhile for it to digest and then watched again.

I think Piz had me at Hello.

I'm so glad to see Mac in the credits, I think I squeed myself a little. *heh*

Messy Dick and toothbrushing Login? Mrow...

Date: 2006-09-27 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosetapestry.livejournal.com
the fact that with these big season-long mysteries...

Actually, in the last issue of TV Guide, Rob Thomas said there will be three mini-arcs this season instead of one full-season arc. I'm interested in seeing how they keep people hooked with the different format.

Date: 2006-09-27 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
That sounds a little more like what should happen, considering the cases they've presented and that scene in the crim class with Veronica solving the mystery. "What did you do for the other ten minutes?" Heh.

Date: 2006-09-27 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audrey1nd.livejournal.com
I'm so confused. I thought V Mars didn't re-start until the 1st Tuesday in October. My TV says that's they're re-showing the new series Runaway after Gilmore Girls.

Date: 2006-09-27 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
It doesn't, but the first episode is streaming here.

Date: 2006-09-27 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bionicaknee.livejournal.com
You know, I have to say that the thing that bugged me the most about last season was that we didn't get to see Dick react to the stuff with Cassidy. But this, this makes up for that because it is so Dick, but at the same time not all the same. I hope that they really delve into all this because I am just fascinated by him and all that's he's been through.

Date: 2006-09-27 06:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] random-serious.livejournal.com
The Keith plot was bizarre.

Am I the only one who cannot stand Dick?

And I HATE Piz's name. It bores me already.

I hear ya on the roomies thing

Date: 2006-09-27 12:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
I'd ask if your silent roommate was my silent and paranoid-lying-psycho roommate (her silence only applied to me, to everyone else she was very talkative), but I'm guessing the timing's off unless you were a junior just last year.

Fortunately, our natures differed so greatly that she ended up moving to a different dorm (after the worst 4 month living situation of my life-- unlike you I was not hardcore enough to last until May, but I was hardcore enough to be the one who stayed instead of left) and I got a new roommate. And it was much better, because while we weren't really hanging-out friends, we were comfortable and could have actual conversations. Mac doesn't know that she got lucky to have someone who's actually friendly.

Ironically, seeing the whole cast now in their college roles... and Wallace is the only one who actually looks young enough to be a freshman. It's almost worse now than when they were supposedly high schoolers, because I've been around freshmen, and in the halls of dormrooms their age is accentuated-- they all look like juniors or seniors. Freshmen look like frelling babies in comparison.

I never thought of Mac and Dick, but you're the second person on my flist to call it after this episode. My heart broke for Mac after he spoke to her, but a little for Dick at the end, too.

The only problem I see with Dick being a red herring is that Dick wasn't there for the first of the rapes. Of course, it could be labeled a copycat thing.

Did they ever explain why Veronica's not at Stanford right now?

Date: 2006-09-27 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] varity.livejournal.com
WHO WAS THE GUY THAT WAS WITH KEITH?! I am so confuuuuused.

Also: PIZ !!! ♥ I cannot get over how much I love him. He's so bouncy and shiny and squiggly, whereas Logan (bless him) is all Emo-Boy.

But Dick, oh poor baby Dick. He's not the rapist. No fracking way.

Date: 2006-10-04 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penmage.livejournal.com
It was only because of you that I thought of Dick/Mac when he showed up at her door. Otherwise, the thought would not have crossed my mind.

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