Repeating this for my own reference.
Jan. 11th, 2007 11:31 pmI'm going to repeat what I said over on
janissa11's LJ.
It feels to me like Kripke is, to use her words, changing horses in midstream.
What John said to Dean ... it's awfully generic, isn't it? "Kill him if you can't protect him," basically. It feels a lot like a letdown, especially considering how much we expected to get revealed tonight. I know a lot of people weren't surprised that "Croatoan" cut off like it did, but come ON.
See, here's what I've been thinking for a while.
Kripke planned this from the very beginning with Sam turning out to be the child of the Demon. John was probably possessed or the Demon took the form of John or Mary actively cheated on John with the Demon -- whatever. But from the beginning the big thing was supposed to be "Sam is the Demon's son." And maybe he thought he was being edgy or something and thought, "No one will ever figure it out!"
And then he went on the internet or ran into fans or something and ... hey, everyone figured it out.
And a LOT of people weren't thrilled with the prospect of Sam not being John's son at ALL.
Uh-oh.
So, new plan. Everybody's expecting Sam to be half-demon. Fine, we'll do something else. But we have all this set-up! And we've filmed a bunch of stuff and -- okay, we don't know what we're going to do specifically, but we have a general idea. So we'll just work with the general idea -- the Demon needs these kids, they have to turn bad, etc. -- and get specific about WHAT they are later.
Can we do that?
OF COURSE we can do that! I know we were going to have this great big reveal after "Croatoan" but we'll do something else.
What something else?
Later, damn it. For now, just write with this in mind -- "Sam might be a threat someday."
Excuse me, but isn't hand-to-hand-combat, breaking-and-entering, caliber-identifying, ass-kicking Sam a threat now?
SILENCE! I HAVE SPOKEN. Now get me a muffin and some truffles and a pinata!
Uh, why?
NEVER QUESTION ME! PARTICULARLY ABOUT JARED'S COCK.
... er, perhaps I should not script out episodes of "Everyone in Hollywood is deranged" in my head.
I'm probably wrong about the whole thing, but ... well, that's the way it feels to me. Like they're going to Canada from Texas and avoiding the snowstorm in the Rockies by driving through Mississippi instead.
It feels to me like Kripke is, to use her words, changing horses in midstream.
What John said to Dean ... it's awfully generic, isn't it? "Kill him if you can't protect him," basically. It feels a lot like a letdown, especially considering how much we expected to get revealed tonight. I know a lot of people weren't surprised that "Croatoan" cut off like it did, but come ON.
See, here's what I've been thinking for a while.
Kripke planned this from the very beginning with Sam turning out to be the child of the Demon. John was probably possessed or the Demon took the form of John or Mary actively cheated on John with the Demon -- whatever. But from the beginning the big thing was supposed to be "Sam is the Demon's son." And maybe he thought he was being edgy or something and thought, "No one will ever figure it out!"
And then he went on the internet or ran into fans or something and ... hey, everyone figured it out.
And a LOT of people weren't thrilled with the prospect of Sam not being John's son at ALL.
Uh-oh.
So, new plan. Everybody's expecting Sam to be half-demon. Fine, we'll do something else. But we have all this set-up! And we've filmed a bunch of stuff and -- okay, we don't know what we're going to do specifically, but we have a general idea. So we'll just work with the general idea -- the Demon needs these kids, they have to turn bad, etc. -- and get specific about WHAT they are later.
Can we do that?
OF COURSE we can do that! I know we were going to have this great big reveal after "Croatoan" but we'll do something else.
What something else?
Later, damn it. For now, just write with this in mind -- "Sam might be a threat someday."
Excuse me, but isn't hand-to-hand-combat, breaking-and-entering, caliber-identifying, ass-kicking Sam a threat now?
SILENCE! I HAVE SPOKEN. Now get me a muffin and some truffles and a pinata!
Uh, why?
NEVER QUESTION ME! PARTICULARLY ABOUT JARED'S COCK.
... er, perhaps I should not script out episodes of "Everyone in Hollywood is deranged" in my head.
I'm probably wrong about the whole thing, but ... well, that's the way it feels to me. Like they're going to Canada from Texas and avoiding the snowstorm in the Rockies by driving through Mississippi instead.
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Date: 2007-01-12 09:03 am (UTC)WTF I do not understand this at all. If anything, it just makes me love the show even more. For reals. I mean, even if Sam wasn't his biological son, John loved him like one. He wasn't the World's Best Dad by any standards, but he loved him, and tried to protect him as well as any father in his situation would, and DUDE THAT IS AWESOMESAUCE.
*packs little truffles with hearts all over them, and a bright colourful Pinata into a big box and posts it to Kripke express :D*
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Date: 2007-01-13 06:28 am (UTC)And if it had worked out that way...it wouldn't have been something that John had known all along, it would have been something he'd figured out relatively recently - because he was still trying to "find out the truth" in Home.