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Lost to end in 2010.

Three more seasons, forty-eight more episodes. Which ... you know, good for you Lost fans for that at least, I suppose. And I'm not even being sarcastic about that, because if I still liked the show at all I'd be thrilled that I could rest assured that my show would be on for the next three years and wasn't about to get dropped from the schedule like a hot potato.

Of course this also means another three years of dealing with Lost fans who, upon hearing that I don't watch anymore, spend an hour telling me every damn thing that's happening on the fucking island to try and get me to watch again because "it's getting really good right now!"

*groans*

Thank you, but no. It's not interesting. I hate to bring up the constant complaint that nothing gets answered, but that's not the problem. The problem is that the answers we get suck on toast. And sweet jumping Jesus dipped in chocolate, if *I* can't find a cohesive overall plotline that makes a lick of sense -- me, who can come up with a whacked-out conspiracy theory or cracked-out AU on the drop of a hat -- something is fucked up.

I loathe the implication, too, when I say I don't like what their idea of an overall storyline is and am told that I just don't understand it. Oh, I understand it. "It's a mystery! And they're not all dead! Oh, and there's no mystical element! Except now there is! Oh, wait, now there's a great planetwide conspiracy! And now it's mystical again, with psychics and stuff! Nevermind, it's a psychological execise! I'm sorry, it's mystical again! And remember that thing I said about them all not being dead? Scratch that, 'kay? Or maybe not."

I DON'T GET IT.

I will pay a million dollars to get some Lost fans to stop looking at me like an idiot when I say that and saying, "Well, obviously you just don't get it," like they're smarter than I am for hanging onto the show and seeing how the storyline plays out. And it's not all Lost fans, thank God. Most of you guys are great and don't hassle anybody who gave up a loooooong time ago. And if you still think it's great and want to finish out the series, knock yourself out. But for fuck's sake, stop treating me like an idiot because the storytelling makes me want to throttle the writing staff. If there's a deep and meaningful overlying plotline, it can't be found through the convoluted crap. When I'm watching a show thinking that one day I am going to miss the One Special Episode That Will Tie Everything Together and if I miss it I am so very very screwed, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. I just keep thinking about Clueless and Alicia Silverstone calling someone a Monet in that from far away they're okay but close-up they're a big mess and ... yeah.

And I still don't believe that the writers have had it planned out since day one, particularly with this new scheduled end for the series.

*****

And there's a great post about abortion and the myth of the irresponsible woman here.

I really have never been able to wrap my brain around the cognitive dissonance involved in having the attitudes of "Babies are a special miraculous gift from God!" and "Women who get knocked up should be forced to carry the babies they get pregnant with!" Which ... really? Because that first one makes babies sound great and fabulous and that second one makes them sound like a nine-month prison sentence.

Date: 2007-05-07 03:20 pm (UTC)
medie: queen elsa's grand entrance (ff - zoe - the special crack)
From: [personal profile] medie
*muffled groan* Lost, Lost, Lost. I gave up after S1. JJ loves to be setting up the awesome mysteries. His answers almost always suck ass. The Alias payoff was...well *NOT*. (No, I'm not bitter AT ALL)

Not to mention he's got the attention span of a gerbil so after S1, he was outta there and the others? *headdesk*

Date: 2007-05-07 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com
I hate the fact that I'm addicted to Lost now and any time I talk about it with frenz, I try to stress the point that IT'S NOT WORTH YOUR TIME despite the fact that I crave it like pie. Escaping Lost? I AM IMPRESSED!

2010?!?!?! Jeeeeeez. I was hoping that next season would be the last season as the number of reveals this season indicate that a conclusion could easily be made next season.... ALAS. LET'S STRETCH THE STORYLINE OUT. (cryyy.)

Date: 2007-05-07 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
They sucked me in with a plane crash which is pretty much a guaranteed way to drag me into a fandom and give it a chance, and then it just ... just ... ARGH.

Date: 2007-05-07 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slashfairy.livejournal.com
Monet.

-hearts-

Date: 2007-05-07 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Oh, dude, all it took was missing two or three episodes in a row and not having the urge to catch up. God knows after missing two, I would have had no fucking clue what the hell was going on.

Then again, watching them would have ended with the same reaction out of me, so. *hands in air*

Date: 2007-05-07 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] random-serious.livejournal.com
I think to a lot of pro-lifers babies are actually a fabulous punishment: a lot of the time that is the vibe. Heaven knows it is never about life, but about making women into sub-human incubators. So, yeah, there is no contradiction: if it keeps bitches in line, the pro-lifers ar for it. I know it sounds harsh and may be unfair but so called pro-lifers really are quite the challenging bunch. IMO, of course, and not meant to attack anyone personally.

Date: 2007-05-07 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liminalliz.livejournal.com
TIME IS BETTER SPENT ON OTHER SHOWS. (YAY NEW HEROES TONIGHT!)

Date: 2007-05-07 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killerweasel.livejournal.com
One more season I could have seen, maybe two. Not three. Bleh. I did a bit of a rant about it in my journal when I saw this. They don't answer any of the questions, they just make more questions and add in new people. *makes flaily hands* The show frustrates me when I watch it and I find myself yelling at the tv. LOL

Date: 2007-05-07 04:13 pm (UTC)
medie: queen elsa's grand entrance (heroes - so screwed up - peter and girl!)
From: [personal profile] medie
*nods* he got me with hints that Lost would be somehow tied up with the Rambaldi thing.

Toward the end of S1, I heard JJ had some other projects in the work and *every* *time* he goes to work on something else, whatever he's already working on goes tits up. Just wasn't interested enough to put up with *THAT* twice.

Date: 2007-05-07 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gruyere.livejournal.com
It's not getting good again. It's better than it was, but that doesn't make it good.

Date: 2007-05-07 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squee1123.livejournal.com
me and Lost are kinda like...friends with benefits. On Wednesday nights when Ive got nothing going on and just want to DO SOMETHING...its there for me to watch.

If Ive got things already going...no big deal if i miss it.


seriously though this new thing where people have all found their dead bodies and stuff and it is seeming as though they really ARE all dead? kinda irritates me because people have been saying that for ages and didnt thw writers say "no! no its not THAAAT, thats too EASY" AND YET. maybe i imagined that response.

Date: 2007-05-07 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikiaceae.livejournal.com
I missed two episodes in a row in early Season 2 and I just couldn't be bothered to catch up. I do randomly ask my friends if any of the questions have been answered yet and it amuses me to watch them squirm. Heh.

Date: 2007-05-07 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regala-electra.livejournal.com
I DON'T GET IT.

Yes! For all the twisty, crazy stuff I'm willing to watch, for all the lengths I'll go to understand a plot that makes no sense, Lost killed me because it just didn't seem to make a lick of sense episode from episode.

I just had to give up on Lost. Yeah, I loved the first season and I tried to be forgiving about a lot of the missteps in the second season but there's only so much handwaving I can do before I've made myself dizzy with explaining away the plotholes. And the major issue of the fucking continuity because HOW MANY days have they been on the island? It's only still a few months, right? WHY do half of the flashbacks not jibe at ALL with characters as they currently stand?

Not to mention all the other questions that keep on cropping up and I don't have time to consult my scorecard of ZOMG IMPORTANT REVEALS! every time they throw us a new "twist" that contradicts a previously stated revelation.

Date: 2007-05-07 04:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thebitterguy
Okay, so how do I get the million dollars?

Date: 2007-05-07 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jira-rd.livejournal.com
I'm wondering who is going to play Aaron soon as that baby actor ages while Aaron doesn't.

Date: 2007-05-07 05:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] suaine.livejournal.com
The funny thing is? I skipped almost the entirety of season 2, and when I got back in at the beginning of season 3, *nothing* had actually happened. I mean, there was *plot* and *mystery* and people died, but they were still emotionally at the same spot they were when I left. It only took another 5 or 6 episodes of nothing to turn me off completely. Now I'll just count my blessings that I got out.

Date: 2007-05-07 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
See, there's nothing wrong with twisty. With twisty, though, you're shocked by the plot developments but you can see EXACTLY how they got there.

Heroes is twisty. Lost is TANGLED.

Date: 2007-05-07 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorei.livejournal.com
Well, I'm still a lost freak, but I don't care if you don't watch it.

Tho I'm curious, when the big payout happens with "all questions answered," do you want to know or do you seriously not care? Cuz if so, I'll give you a synopsis, if you want it. If not, no skin off my nose, either.

Date: 2007-05-07 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Nah, I'm good. I keep reading the recaplets on TWoP just out of curiosity to see if I have any urge to come back into the fold and so far ... nope. :)

Date: 2007-05-07 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regala-electra.livejournal.com
Yes, totally. I adore Heroes for that and because they go for the big shock moments, but damn, they are earned. I am still in a tailspin over last week's episode.

Farscape is my favorite show ever and it was incredibly twisted (in all meanings of that word) yet the characters' motivations were incredibly consistent.

Date: 2007-05-07 06:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
I loved season 1 but I got really TIRED of the flashbacks in season 2 and I just didn't care anymore about what happened before they got to the island. I think in season 1 the flashbacks were well used to explain how everyone got to where they're at on the island but I didn't expect them to keep using them through season 2 and now 3...I have like 8 episodes saved on my computer intending to watch at some point...but the reality is I'd rather do something else.

Date: 2007-05-07 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minotaurs.livejournal.com
I'm just gonna wait till it's done and watch it all in a row - maybe it will make sense that way.

Date: 2007-05-07 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milkshake-b.livejournal.com
Oh Alias. I gave up around when the sister showed up. It reminds me of a criticism I once saw for The Books of Magic: you cannot solve a plot twist with another plot twist.

I get the impression Lost plays the same game.

Date: 2007-05-07 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wrenlet.livejournal.com
They gave me new eye-candy this year, but other than that... uh... I kinda can't look away, like I can't stop watching Smallville even though it sucks out loud.

Date: 2007-05-07 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tv-elf.livejournal.com
Three more seasons, forty-eight more episodes. Which ... you know, good for you Lost fans for that at least, I suppose.

One word... Farscape.

Date: 2007-05-07 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storydivagirl.livejournal.com
I volunteer at a women's center and I think my favorites are the middle-aged Republican women who bring their fifteen year old daughters in for abortions and tell you, "I'm Pro-Life, but she just *can't* have this kid." So basically, she thinks abortion should only be available to her child who was never taught about birth control.

Date: 2007-05-08 12:48 am (UTC)
medie: queen elsa's grand entrance (alias - look - lauren)
From: [personal profile] medie
Gahhh. *nods* Nadia and her WrongBadHot chemistry with Jack was pretty much the only thing that kept me going through season four. I had much rage issues everytime Sydney showed up on screen so I'd just happily picture her reaction if she found out about Jack/Nadia. It improved things immeasurably. The finale though? Was a total "I waited five years for this? Gimme my damn five years back plz."

Yep. Lost does. I got irritated with it pretty quick and knowing JJ's penchant for plot twists that are AWESOME followed up by solutions that are NOT? *shudder* nooo thank you. And I find I don't miss it a bit.

Date: 2007-05-08 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wufeidragon.livejournal.com
This is great. It's first of all a skit about how ridiculous Lost is, followed by a clip of a Lost episode that mimics the skit. Really, it's great.

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