apocalypsos: (mama petrelli)
[personal profile] apocalypsos
OMG TELL ME WHAT THE HELL MAMA PETRELLI CAN DO, DAMN IT. (You know, aside from rocking hardcore.)

And I just ... it's so the entire Petrelli family that's slashy, isn't it? It's not just Claire and Nathan and Peter, now they've dragged Mama into their awesome extra-touchy hotness. I know it's bad when Mama is putting Nathan's jacket on and adjusting his collar and all I can think is, "KISS HER, DAMMIT! (homigod where the hell did that come from? *cries*)"

While I'm on the subject can I just say how much I love Peter and Claire together right now? I mean, okay, yeah, I like to picture them making out, but I mean just in general, you know? As uncle and niece? I know there's that annoying theory that Peter was ... I don't know, left on the Petrelli doorstep by superpowered wolves or something, but their being related is the whole point. You can see them setting up the whole "Bloodlines are important!" thing a mile away. They get Claire back to her biological family, and they're all superpowered. Micah's the result of two married superhumans. "Nathan" in the possible future makes a reference to "outlawing their breeding," making it obvious that it's known that superhuman abilities are passed genetically. If the possible future is any indication, the baby Janice is carrying has powers as well that he inherited from Matt (why else would she have to go into hiding with the boy?). Hiro's father giving Claire to Mr. Bennet indicates that he is just as much a part of this as Mama Petrelli and Linderman, and if THEY have powers and Hiro does as well, he probably does also. Also, if Shanti had powers I have a really ridiculously difficult time believing Mohinder doesn't.

Yeah, I'm still irritated by the theory. The only reason for Peter to not be a blood relation to Claire is so that they can make out on NBC and not just in AU fic without it being skeevy. And "But they have such great chemistry!" is NOT a reason.

ANYWAY.

I love the misdirection that DL and Jessica now think that Linderman did something to them (and by extension, Micah) to make them the way they are. It's weird ... this is one of the few times I've genuinely liked both of them. Yes, even Jessica.

And yay! Micah knew he was being scammed! I was starting to think Jessica was dropping him on his wee curly-topped head for kicks in between scenes.

How funny is it that after Sylar is guilt-ridden by the thought of killing millions of innocent people the first person he calls is Mohinder? "I'm going to explode! Come find me! I need a hug!"

Of course, as we all know the recommended cure for early-onset woobitude is to stab your mother. (It was probably a good idea, at least from my point of view, if only because I had a moment of hearing, "Suddenly SYLAAAAAAAAAAAR!" in my head and if that was the only way to end it, so be it.)

Also, Mohinder is more adorable than ever when talking to Molly. Oh, how much do I want him to take her home and keep her now? At the very least, she recognizes that he's kind of a dork. And she likes him! And then she hugged him, and my ovaries went "Wheeeeeee!" and spontaneously generated a fetus. I'm due in January. Send booties!

The thing about his blood curing the virus seems odd to me, though. I mean, okay, I get how it might save Shanti, I think, but how it saves Molly ... is that even right? I'm not exactly a genius when it comes to medical stuff, so seriously, does that even work or are the Heroes writers waving a "Mohinder's got powers" plotline under our noses?

I've said it already but I'll say it again -- that face that Nathan made when Claire said that his being able to fly was cool was so an understated, "Yeah, it kind of is, isn't it?" Which ... honestly, he doesn't even show that face to Peter. Hell, Hiro's the only one who's seen anything close.

Date: 2007-05-08 02:48 am (UTC)
celli: a woman and a man holding hands, captioned "i treasure" (Weiss AU)
From: [personal profile] celli
Yes, Everything you said. Especially this:

Of course, as we all know the recommended cure for early-onset woobitude is to stab your mother. (It was probably a good idea, at least from my point of view, if only because I had a moment of hearing, "Suddenly SYLAAAAAAAAAAAR!" in my head and if that was the only way to end it, so be it.)

And the thing with the ovaries.

Date: 2007-05-08 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squee1123.livejournal.com
"How funny is it that after Sylar is guilt-ridden by the thought of killing millions of innocent people the first person he calls is Mohinder? "I'm going to explode! Come find me! I need a hug!""

Their love is so PURE!

Mohinder and Molly really are the cutest ever. And I think maybe they luckily have the same blood type...or maybe Mohinder is lucky enough to be a universal donor? Or maybe he has super seekrit healing powers.

Date: 2007-05-08 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milkshake-b.livejournal.com
Oh, someone had to juxtapose those two points and give me the most fucked-up family ever in my head.

Date: 2007-05-08 03:48 pm (UTC)
aurora: (Heroes Sylar Isolation)
From: [personal profile] aurora
*DIES*

Date: 2007-05-08 02:55 am (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
WAIT! I've got it!

Mohinder's power is to cure special-specific diseases! His parents bred him to have that specific gift!

Because of that, if he works really hard, he may develop tangential powers, like the ability to identify other special people on the street, or make them sick instead of better (which is how Sylar thought he'd kill all of them for his evil brain lab)!

Date: 2007-05-08 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] offtheceiling.livejournal.com
But...this means Sylar's mom had a power, right? And didn't know it, I'm thinking. Oh, Heroes, you kind of hurt my brain.

I wanna know if Heidi and the boys have powers! And if Nathan is going to make Linderman heal her. Or if Linderman's going to offer to in exchange from something for Nathan.

Date: 2007-05-08 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
She might have. Then again, it didn't seem like Niki's dad had a power, so. *shrugs*

It seems like you don't need to have a parent with powers to have powers, but if you do have at least one parent with powers you will have powers. If that even makes sense. :)

Considering the evidence they've given us so far I'm saying the Petrelli boys definitely have powers, but I'm not so sure Heidi's got them. But, oh. Oh, yes. I can totally see Linderman going, "I'll fix your problem if you fix mine. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge." *flails*

Date: 2007-05-08 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com
Could be Sylar's dad had the powers.

Date: 2007-05-08 03:50 am (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
No, it doesn't. It doesn't rule out the possibility of either his mom or dad (or both) having powers, but it doesn't guarantee it, either.

The trait runs in families, but there could still be sports popping up all over the place. Indeed, that's what they basically said in the last episode - even with known-specials being unable to have kids (legally), they were still being born.

Date: 2007-05-08 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's kinda like you MIGHT have a superhuman baby if you have no abilities, but you WILL have a superhuman baby if you do.

Date: 2007-05-08 04:05 am (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
And even the latter statement is unproven. We don't know the genetics of it.

*thinks*

Actually, it seems, from what we *do* know, to be pretty similar to Potterverse genetics....

Date: 2007-05-09 06:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladytiamat.livejournal.com
Or it could be that Sylar was left on MamaSylar's doorstep by a pack of super-powered... Petrellis?

Date: 2007-05-08 03:00 am (UTC)
imperfect_tense: (Default)
From: [personal profile] imperfect_tense
I know it's bad when Mama is putting Nathan's jacket on and adjusting his collar and all I can think is, "KISS HER, DAMMIT!

I'm /really/ glad I wasn't the only one thinking that.

Date: 2007-05-08 03:02 am (UTC)
medie: queen elsa's grand entrance (heroes - brothers - petrellis)
From: [personal profile] medie
*GOD* yes. My ovaries went on like FULL ALERT when Mohinder was on screen with Molly and the HUG. OMG. Booties on the way! *G*

And yes, I want to see Mohinder with powers now. They've driven the bloodline plot home and dammit, come *ON*?

Date: 2007-05-08 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com
Actually, the "Suddenly Sylar" thing is dead on. See my LJ.

Date: 2007-05-08 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Heh. Yeah, I figured I couldn't possibly be the only one, especially if I had either been the one who'd been the one to sing it in the movie or the one standing next to her. :)

Date: 2007-05-08 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilian413.livejournal.com
I'm not exactly a genius when it comes to medical stuff, so seriously, does that even work or are the Heroes writers waving a "Mohinder's got powers" plotline under our noses?

I'm thinking Mohinder's power is an ability to negate all powers. The way Peter absorbs them, but the inverse of that... or something. And my bio-knowledge sense was tingling throughout all the episode going 'this is WRONG; WRONGWRONGWONG!!!' but it was too awesome to actually make me listen to it. :-)

Wait, if Shanti had powers - and what could she do, BTW? - does this mean Papa Suresh had it too? Or maybe it was Mama Suresh-- but she didn't say anything all the way back during the beggining of the season, did she? *explodes*

Date: 2007-05-08 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com
Also, I don't think that Sylar is guilt-ridden over blowing up NY.

I think he's upset that if he does, all those yummy brains he would otherwise get to eat will be denied him because he can't eat radioactive ash.

Date: 2007-05-08 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] isabeau.livejournal.com
I don't think he's guilt-ridden about blowing up NY, especially since most of the "innocent people" are, er, people without powers and therefore people whose brains don't need eating. I think he's just confused because he doesn't have any idea why. The individual deaths/killings all had a purpose; going boom doesn't; and he needs order too much to allow that kind of confusion.

Date: 2007-05-08 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinkfinity.livejournal.com
Someone really needs to do a sylar-centric vid (or mohinder/sylar) to Somewhere That's Green...

Date: 2007-05-08 03:15 am (UTC)
trinity_clare: (vertigo heroes)
From: [personal profile] trinity_clare
Biologically, (I'm making this up) Mohinder's antibodies only would have cured his sister, I think. It would have been more believable if Molly had a sibling to donate blood. Or he has powers. Whichever.

See, my thought about DL and Niki wasn't that Linderman had given them powers, but that he'd set them up. Like breeding rats in a lab. *shudders*

Date: 2007-05-08 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iseult-variante.livejournal.com
See, I am all curious as to whether that was Mama Petrelli in that scene - I wonder if it was Candace. *ponders* Peter and Claire make me happy, because I think they will get to be vaguely sibling-y, and quite aside from the 'cest, I LIKE that sort of thing!

I may have laughed really, really hard at the "... I shouldn't have called," thing. That was SO MUCH a thing that you say when you call an ex. SO MUCH.

And re: Mohinder's blood - I'm currently handwaving it as he simplified it for Molly, and so it's something more specific about him having particular antibodies in his blood that will fight the virus. Although now I am all, "But how did he get the antibodies? Was his father experimenting on him in utero to save his sister??? Also, where is this virus coming from?" because I remember the Legacy virus, from back in the day. Hm.

Date: 2007-05-08 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spyderqueen.livejournal.com
OMG, dude, I hadn't even THOUGHT of it being Candace.

Date: 2007-05-08 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jldecker.livejournal.com
Can't have been. She was still in Vegas with Micah.

I think Mama P is just a wicked badass. ^-^

Date: 2007-05-08 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I could have sworn Micah and "Niki" were in New York in that apartment.

But I think it's Mama as well. Not that I would be surprised if it were Candice, but I can't see her splitting her time between watching Micah AND going to Nathan.

Date: 2007-05-08 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jldecker.livejournal.com
hmm ... Maybe they were. But unless there was more of a time lapse between Niki getting home to see Candice leaving, and DL coming back to ask where Micah was, I can't imagine they'd have gotten to NYC.

Maybe Linderman has his own Concorde? ^-^

Date: 2007-05-08 09:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I just rewatched the episode. The caption says Micah and Candice are in New York City.

It would take about ten hours or so to get him there, but then again we can't exactly be sure of when the DL/Jessica exchange is taking place, particularly since the Traveling Radioactive Road Show is shown boosting a car in St. Louis early in the episode and walking the streets of Manhattan at the end of it.

Date: 2007-05-08 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jldecker.livejournal.com
And thus, I stand corrected. ^-^

You win! //taps out//

LOL

Date: 2007-05-08 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iseult-variante.livejournal.com
The mere existence of Candice (ahhh, IMDB, correcting my spelling) makes me SO SUSPICIOUS every time a character does something a little out of left field. Like, this is totally plausible for Mama Petrelli, based on what we've seen so far (ex. turning her attention back to the election right after Peter died), but hmmm.

Date: 2007-05-08 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budclare.livejournal.com
I'm assuming/hoping it was Candace. Or maybe she's been pretending to go along with the evil plot, just so she can foil it at the last minute. I don't want to her be a bitch (in a bad way).

Date: 2007-05-08 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iseult-variante.livejournal.com
Aw, me either. A bitch on the side of the angels is just fine, of course. ;)

Date: 2007-05-08 05:27 am (UTC)
poisontaster: character Wen Qing from The Untamed (Woo-Hoo)
From: [personal profile] poisontaster
Oh THANK GOD I'm not the only one that thought there was some cestiness vibe with Angela and Nathan in this ep. *facepalm*

And you know, for one moment when Molly was holding the picture of Chandra, the mom and Shanti, I was TOTALLY expecting Molly to say something like "she's not dead! she's in Sarasota! (or something)"

"I'm going to explode! Come find me! I need a hug!"
*gigglesnorts* Clearly they were doing lots of...ahem...BONDING on that road trip.

Date: 2007-05-08 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aesvir.livejournal.com
Yikes, Mohinder's parents basically used him the way we use mice to make monoclonal antibodies. Then again, if I wanted a way to preserve antibodies and transport them around the globe, having someone carry it in their blood isn't too bad.

I don't remember enough from (not going to) cell bio class, but antibodies are molecule-specific and not don't have to be from the same blood type. So as long as Molly and Shanti have the same thing, Mohinder's antibodies would work on Molly too.

Date: 2007-05-08 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greyelveneyes.livejournal.com
I'm so freakin' glad that I'm not the only one who was all "Hey! She's Audrey from Little Shop of Horrors!"

Because it took me a few lines, but I flipped once I realized who it was.

I loved the Molly and Mohinder interaction, and Sylar/Gabriel reaching out to Mohinder totally made Mylar/Sylinder canon.

TOTALLY.

Date: 2007-05-08 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jldecker.livejournal.com
"I'm going to explode! Come find me! I need a hug!"

LMAO!

You know that Molly is what Bennett and Co. are headed to NY to destroy, right? She's gotta be.

Date: 2007-05-08 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
mmmmmmmm sylar/mohinder mmm.

i mean.

wait.

that would be wrong.

Date: 2007-05-08 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taramisu.livejournal.com
I hope I'm not the only one who SQUEEED when Molly got blood. Who says Mohinder doesn't have HIV or Hepatitis?! {Nurse Tara crawls away now}

Date: 2007-05-08 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
This is what gets me, and correct me if I'm wrong. Mohinder has antibodies against that virus. Don't you have to have had an immunization or gone through a disease already to have antibodies against it?

Date: 2007-05-09 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taramisu.livejournal.com
Yes. However, why can you believe that Sylar can steal genetic code from people's brains and install them into himself, but you can't believe that Mohindar has antibodies to genetic code? Really, the whole thing is just silly. Fun to watch, but very, very silly.

Date: 2007-05-09 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Because how Sylar assimilates these abilities doesn't matter to the plot, but how Mohinder developed said antibodies does. (And according to him they're antibodies to a virus that stifles the genetic code, not the actual genetic code itself.)

Mohinder was conceived to save his sister. It seems odd to me that he would simply be born with antibodies to a virus without having the virus given to him already. Why couldn't the disease be given to anyone and then the antibodies be derived by them? Why did it have to be a sibling of Shanti's? It means a lot if this particular virus only affects people with superhuman abilities especially in regards to Mohinder -- would that or wouldn't that mean that he has abilities himself and doesn't know yet?

The whole thing is that there a high likelihood that this virus could be used later on in the series as a weapon against superhumans. Future!Mohinder said there was no way to stifle the superhuman gene in people, but here we have this virus. It's lethal from what we know, but it also keeps those afflicted from using their abilities. If after the explosion (if there is one) the government feels the need to try and find a way to "cure" these people ... oh, look what the Company has in this little vial!

How Sylar takes in those brains doesn't affect future plotlines nearly as much as this new development does. :)

Date: 2007-05-08 03:50 pm (UTC)
aurora: (Heroes Flying Man!!)
From: [personal profile] aurora
How funny is it that after Sylar is guilt-ridden by the thought of killing millions of innocent people the first person he calls is Mohinder? "I'm going to explode! Come find me! I need a hug!"
Sylar's mancrush is so showing. :))

Date: 2007-05-08 06:50 pm (UTC)
tabaqui: (marlabydeadatadisco)
From: [personal profile] tabaqui
Yes!
To everything.

I'm loving *all of it*. And i'm with you - i actually almost liked Jessica/Niki in this ep!

And i wanted Mikah to be able to blast the shapeshifter chicka with some kind of power but o well.

And Mohinder is so damn *pretty*. OMFG.

And for just one second i thought maybe Gabriel/Syler was gonna put his mom into a giant snowglobe *forever*.

And does Gabriel as his name mean anything cool, i wonder? Hrmmmmm.

Love!

Date: 2007-05-09 10:58 pm (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
-el has to do with God. Gabriel altogether means "God is my might".

The angel Gabriel is refered to as the "Left Hand of God", and foretold the birth of Jesus (or he dictated the Koran, if you're Muslim). He's the saint of broadcasters (but not if you're Muslim). He gave Daniel a message about the End of Days, but Wikipedia isn't telling me what the message was.

Date: 2007-05-10 01:05 am (UTC)
tabaqui: (s&dkneesbyblack_regalia)
From: [personal profile] tabaqui
Hrmmmmmm....interesting. I'm enamoured of the angel Raphael and so know more about him, even though i played Gabriel in kindergarten, telling Mary she was preggers.
Heh.

Thanks!
The Catholic Encyclopedia has an interesting, linky entry:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06330a.htm

Date: 2007-05-10 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neotoma.livejournal.com
The angel Gabriel is generally thought to be the angel whose trumpet will announce the End of the World.

Date: 2007-05-10 03:52 am (UTC)
tabaqui: (beakermeepbyinmonkeys)
From: [personal profile] tabaqui
Ah ha.
Skeery.
:)

Date: 2007-05-10 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 12-12-12.livejournal.com
While I'm on the subject can I just say how much I love Peter and Claire together right now?

Oh, me too! I just love their dynamic together, and how that shifted over the course of the episode. We couldn't have had Claire hero-worshipping Peter all the time, but then she realizes that he doesn't have all the answers, and now they're more of partners-in-arms. I love it. I love their determination and courage and even their uncertainty and fear. They're like the new generation facing off against the old (though they don't know it yet.)

I've said it already but I'll say it again -- that face that Nathan made when Claire said that his being able to fly was cool was so an understated, "Yeah, it kind of is, isn't it?" Which ... honestly, he doesn't even show that face to Peter. Hell, Hiro's the only one who's seen anything close.

It's OK with Hiro and Claire, because Nathan doesn't feel compelled to take care of them, look after them, protect them, make sure everything is OK. I always feel like the only person Nathan really *worries* about is Peter.

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