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... of a fic pet peeve that bothers me more than "Dean is blond!" and Sam's ever-changing eye color. (One which [livejournal.com profile] clex_monkie89 and I were discussing the other day.)

Sam does NOT live solely on salads.

For crying out loud, he is six-foot-five, built live a brick outhouse and lives a very physical lifestyle. He would have to eat ridiculous amounts of salad and tofu and grubs and whatever other "healthy" foods he supposedly lives on to maintain that body.

Come on, we've seen the way Jared eats. That man puts away food like there's a small nation of starving people living in his torso. I have an uncle who's in his forties now but was built almost exactly like Sam when he was in his twenties -- a couple of inches shorter, but basically the same body -- and he's notorious for coming to family parties, eating two full plates of food, and walking out the door with a big Tupperware container full of leftovers. (Actually, I have five uncles on my mom's side who are all big guys -- and let's not even get into how I lucked out and ended up five-two ... *sigh* -- and they all eat like that, but my uncle Eddie's the closest example.)

It's NOT all salad. It's not huge heaping plates of Doritos or whatever Dean's supposed to eat in comparison. It's meat and potatoes and pasta and veggies and cake and seafood and ... you know, food groups. Many, many food groups. Guys in that shape have ridiculous metabolisms. Those two guys are eating chicken and steak and ribs. They're eating potatoes and dessert and everything in sight.

I don't doubt Sam eats healthier than Dean does -- Sam's more likely to eat a salad with dinner than Dean, who'd probably swap that salad out for chili cheese fries if he could -- but it's a salad WITH dinner. Which considering Sam's size, he probably orders two of and then proceeds to lick the plate.

And I have a really hard time believing those two men have missed more than one meal at a time EVER, and not for lack of trying. They're tied up in a basement, some creature's got them cornered in an abandoned asylum ... that's why those two miss meals. We're talking about two grown men in near-perfect health, both muscular and over six feet tall. The only complaint that anybody ever seems to have about either one of their bodies is that Jensen's could use more definition in comparison. That's it.

That flashback in Something Wicked is a HUGE sign that those two rarely if ever went hungry, and for two very important reasons:

1. Sam had no problem complaining that he didn't want the food he'd asked for in the first place.
2. Dean had no problem throwing it away.

My mother would have KILLED me for throwing away perfectly good food and I never worried about where my next meal was coming from. I'm not saying that they had a huge selection to pick from, or that Ramen wasn't in their grocery bags sometimes, or that John wasn't grocery shopping with food stamps at the dollar store and buying the dented cans every so often. But those boys were not starving. Those boys have NEVER starved. Children who don't know where their next meal is coming from don't pick and choose their meals or throw away perfectly good Spaghetti-Os.

But mainly it's the salad thing that bothers me, because I have lived around big guys all of my life and ... NONONO.
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Date: 2007-05-10 04:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wolfshark
Seriously - my brothers are all 6'5", and two of the three are built like Jared. They eat everything in sight, and always have.

Of course, the oldest is over 30, and his metabolism is slowing down, and he's starting to get a little chubby, because he hasn't figured out he can't do that anymore, but the youngest, who's enlisted in the army, eats like he's trying to feed one at every meal.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Exactly. My brother is the only guy in my family who doesn't eat like that. He's 5'11" and he almost always picks at his food, and he's a goddamn twig.

And another sign those two didn't starve -- Lucky Charms and Spaghetti-Os. If John had the extra cash to spend on brand names Sam and Dean weren't going hungry.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcee.livejournal.com
i had a dream once where sam was sitting on a motel bed, watching TV and methodically eating his way through a whole loaf of sliced bread. as a snack.

i woke up laughing.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wtfbrain.livejournal.com
What color is Dean's hair anyway? It looks like a dark blond to me, but I always see these "Dean is not blond!" posts, so what the hell are we supposed to call it? It's not brown, so he's not a brunet, and if it's not blond then what?

Date: 2007-05-10 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com
...dean would say, if asked, that sam lives solely on rabbit food.

but that's because dean's tired of being told to eat something green that is not preceeded by the word "gummi". :)

Date: 2007-05-10 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jira-rd.livejournal.com
I have been having a crappy day and it's not even noon, and I was crying earlier, and then I came and read this, and then I read Which considering Sam's size, he probably orders two of and then proceeds to lick the plate, and stopped crying and started laughing helplessly.

Thank you. It's true, too. Ahah. I'm going to go off and try to feel better. And download Supernatural. I haven't been keeping up with it properly.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunardreamed.livejournal.com
And Dean's growth wasn't stunted because he gave his food to Sam. He's not short!

And I agree. Sam is probably not the pickiest eater either. I can count the number of things I eat on two hands. And I never change brands. I'm picky. People who eat out of diners on a regular basis are not picky.

Someone wrote a story that Sam has to watch what he eats and that's why he was chubby when he was twelve and he never understood how Dean could eat everything in sight. I don't buy that. I think he was chubby until he hit his growth spurt and then he never could get fat again.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Damn straight that man's not short. He's six-one, for Christ's sake. He's shorter in comparison to Sam, but then again Tokyo is shorter in comparison to Sam.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] goddessleila.livejournal.com
Not only that, but their father, with the kind of military background he had, would have the basic common sense to know that you can't expect your body to live up to those kind of physical demands without feeding it. John and his boys eat steak, and lots of 'em.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:26 pm (UTC)
ext_1947: (Default)
From: [identity profile] goddessleila.livejournal.com
I myself am almost six feet tall, the only tall girl in a family of male giants. Trust me. Six foot one is tall, because that's how high I measure when I'm wearing boots. I know.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
John and his boys eat steak, and lots of 'em.

Which is why I want to go to dinner with the Winchesters. Just let it stare at the oven in horror and then bring it to me still mooing in fear. *rubs hands together*

Date: 2007-05-10 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apetslife.livejournal.com
My brother, who's only 5'10", used to eat two steaks, potatoes, veggies, and dessert for dinner when he was an athlete (and in shape fairly comparable to Sam and Dean). I can only imagine what the ginormous Padalecki can put away at one meal.

Which is to say, um, yeah, Sam and Dean eat a lot. And if they ARE tied up and miss a meal? That next one will be twice as big. Papa Winchester probably started scamming credit cards just so he could feed them both.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] goddessleila.livejournal.com
Ahahahah. I like mine *medium* rare myself, but yes. Steak. Very important part of your daily diet. Everyone should eat steak. I think my parents are getting tired of it, because every time they stop by for lunch and ask me where I want to go- "Steakhouse!" "Again?" "Duh!"

I'm just lucky my Dad's on Atkins. Otherwise I would be one sad panda.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunardreamed.livejournal.com
I considered putting into my personal canon that Dean is not short, but tall and that he's not a blond.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I keep picturing Jared in that postcards photo with the three styrofoam containers of food in his hand, and he goes back to his trailer afterwards and eats everything in them, and then licks the inside for good measure.

And then possibly eats the styrofoam containers. :)

Date: 2007-05-10 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bexone.livejournal.com
I had an uncle who actually told one steakhouse waitress to "run it past the table and I'll carve my own." His son-in-law stared at him in horror and proceeded to order shoe leather. Alas! The uncle has since been divorced, but the (nutjob!) son-in-law is still part of the family.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shoiryu.livejournal.com
I've been quietly muttering this at fandom since I got into the damn show, heh. Dean, of course, is fond of saying that Sam eats twice as much as he does, he's just way less shameless about it!

Date: 2007-05-10 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
See, this is why I can't be a vegetarian. If I had to give up steak and kielbasa and chicken and bacon, I think I'd start crying and never stop.

Damn. Now I want bacon. Mmm, bacon.

I was at Panera the other day eating baked potato soup out of a bread bowl and thinking, "If someone on the Atkins diet walks by I'm going to get such dirty looks." :)

Date: 2007-05-10 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Heh. I share the same birthday with a great-aunt and at one birthday party for us at Ruby Tuesday I told the waitress to bring the steak to me as rare as they could get it. ("*laugh* Do you even want them to cook it at all?" "... can they do that?" "O.o")

When they brought it to the table it looked like a massacre on a plate. Everybody sitting around me spent the rest of the meal grossed out. It was awesome. :)

Date: 2007-05-10 04:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] goddessleila.livejournal.com
I agree completely. And I worked at the Panera here at Willow Lawn for five months, and I can tell you this- only a *complete idiot* would choose Panera if they were on Atkins. I mean, technically they have protein salads, which are allowed and apparently, pretty damn tasty, but otherwise? Bread. Bread *everywhere.* It is a bread-related chain. The bakery display is bigger than the sandwich prep line. Just... yeah.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apetslife.livejournal.com
Styrofoam! Lots of fiber! Definitely good for you! Heeeee.

Yeah, I hear you on that. And also, early malnutrition stunts your growth.

*thinks about Sam's height*

I don't think either of them missed any meals as kids, nope.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
He may not even take the food out of the styrofoam containers. You know those little papery discs shaped like spaceships filled with little candy balls? It's like that. Just one big bite. :)

Date: 2007-05-10 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storydivagirl.livejournal.com
Word to that. Dude, my brother was ALWAYS eating and he was an athlete in good shape. Also drinks too...boys don't just do a little sip of anything. He was always walking around with a carton of orange juice or milk in his hands.

And my friend, Mike, is never without his big jug of iced tea.

Date: 2007-05-10 04:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
my husband is 6 "1" and he eats everything in sight and bitches and complains if he's hungry (which is often if he doesn't eat enough) And then complalins that I won't share my meal with him because I can only eat half of what he eats so I take the rest home. I find it very hard to believe as well that Sam could survive off just salads. (though some places do serve gigantic salads.)

Date: 2007-05-10 04:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trinity_clare
THANK YOU.
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