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Apparently, the cat is dying for attention. This probably stems from the fact that I had one of those Sundays where you absolutely do NOT want to leave your bed, and so you don't, and you bring food and soda and your laptop and the remote for the TV into bed and just lie there and vegetate.

I think he thinks he needs to get me up and out of bed because he's been bringing what's left of his cow to me to play fetch with for most of the day. You'd be amused, too, if you just kept randomly napping only to have a dirty, torn-up cow doll dropped on your head. :)

*****

Okay, so I seriously need to catch up with Doctor Who but there is one thing about the finale that regardless of the quality of the rest of the episode makes me a flailing mess.

So ... Jack as the Face of Boe.

YES, YES, YES.

I know some people don't want to think about him turning into that in a million years, but ... but the Face of Boe is cool. And he's around FOREVER. It's not like he's going to turn into that tomorrow. And even if he did, so what? Part of it is the fact that it means Jack doesn't go away. He's always going to be around, at least until "Gridlock", and could he mutate into anything more awesome in the Whoniverse? I THINK NOT.

The Face of Boe is practically immortal, and dies a hero, and gets pregnant more than once, and ... and ... Okay! Here's the thing that gets me. "Boekind" has been mentioned in canon, right? I mean, seriously, not only does Jack turn into that, THERE IS MORE THAN ONE. Where the hell do the rest of them come from?! From him? From the Doctor?

I LOVE THIS SO MUCH YAY.

I mean, if that's the way it is. But like I said, still haven't seen the last few episodes of the season. Need to catch up. *sigh*

*****

Maddy Gaiman = Still looks frighteningly like my cousin Lauren. Heh.

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So! People had stuff they wanted me to talk about.

[livejournal.com profile] dawnmipb wanted me to talk about The awesomeness of Scottish antiterror actions. And you know, I keep trying to read stories about the airport incident with as much seriousness as they deserve because it obviously is a horrible thing and should be taken very seriously. And yet the very first picture I saw of it was the burning car sitting in the middle of the airport or wherever it was, and all I could think was, "... oops." So now all I can do when I even think about it is try desperately not to laugh.

[livejournal.com profile] bluesister wanted me to talk about trust fund babies. It pretty much boils down to this: for God's sake, do something with it. I know it's really tempting to buy twenty Fendi bags and go snort blow with Lindsay Lohan while swilling thirty-dollar martinis, but yeah, NO.

[livejournal.com profile] secretbutterfly wanted me to talk about SG-1. I don't really follow it closely but I know the characters well enough that if it's on and I watch a random episode I can follow. It's one of those shows where I don't go chasing after the episodes or anything but I'll totally watch it if it's on.

And [livejournal.com profile] pr_scatterbrain wanted me to talk about "the disappearance of the early Christian 'Good Shepherd' motif after the 4th century." Uh, can I talk about staring at that request and thinking, "Sweet chocolate-dipped Jesus, I would so have failed art history if I'd ever taken it. Not that I don't like art, per se, and I can draw if given the time. But my initial reaction was a lot like, O.o.

I'll save the virginity request for another post since, you know, that one could get a little long-winded. And if anybody else has a subject for me to talk about for that meme, ask away. :)

Date: 2007-07-02 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pie-is-good.livejournal.com
I don't really think Jack is the Face of Boe. I mean, yeah, he said he was known as the Face of Boe. As in he's from the Boeshane Peninsula. And was a poster boy. So people called him the Face of Boe.

The way he said it pretty much just sound like a coincidence and that Russell T. Davies is just being a bastard with our heads. And it didn't really look like the Doctor quite believed it.

Date: 2007-07-02 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
It seems like a pretty big coincidence, though. And I could swear I saw somebody on ye olde friends list mention that RTD was talking about it and one of the producers said he had to make it clearer they were the same being. (Although that statement could have been missing "... if that's what you're getting at".)

I just ... Jack. And the Face of Boe. My two favorite Who characters, as THE SAME BEING. *swoons*

Date: 2007-07-02 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pie-is-good.livejournal.com
Meh. It just doesn't really make sense, and the writing and the way it's said make it sound like a very throwaway line. Unless there is some serious exploring of that next season, I really don't believe it. I personally like the explanation in this fic.

In the podcast, RTD said he is in the camp that it's just a theory. Julie Gardner is pretty much rolling her eyes and going, "He's totally the Face of Boe!"

But she doesn't really have much to do with the story in that way.

I don't know.

If it had been treated better, I might buy it. But it wasn't, and it doesn't seem to fit. It feels so very tacked on and completely dumb.

Like most of the episode.

Jack hardly did anything in these episodes, too, which makes that 'revelation' even more unexciting.

(I'm bitter.)

Date: 2007-07-02 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pie-is-good.livejournal.com
Oh, and my idea other than coincidence is that it's RTD being a bastard by having Jack play with the Doctor's head by dropping that line. The way Jack walks off also sort of suggests that.

How much to you have to catch up? Have you seen 'Blink'? Because that is utterly fantastic.

Date: 2007-07-02 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluesister.livejournal.com
I think NO is a good response.

The wife sez Maddie Gaiman looks just like a miniature of her father. So if I ever see a wee female Neil Gaiman, I'm going to say, "Maddy! Lauren!"

Date: 2007-07-02 07:30 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] cdybedahl.livejournal.com
Although if the Face of Boe really is Jack it explains why the Face knew that the Doctor wasn't actually the last Timelord.

Date: 2007-07-02 08:19 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] st-aurafina.livejournal.com
The Face of Boe was always awesome - I think it rocks that Jack, who can't die, can evolve. And look - he sings, he knew about the psychic paper, he got to see Nine and Rose at the start of their adventures. He's the one who called the Doctor the Lonely God. It's just made of awesome.

Date: 2007-07-02 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 20thcenturyvole.livejournal.com
I'm so, so glad to know that I'm not the only one who thought Jack as the Face of Boe was awesome. C'mon, how the Face of Boe dies? Best, most fitting death possible for Jack. It just makes me happy for him.

Date: 2007-07-02 12:44 pm (UTC)
titti: (Dr. Who - 10)
From: [personal profile] titti
RTD confirmed it in the audio commentary to the episode that he is in deed the Face of Boe, and that John called RTD when he read the script laughing and saying that it was really cool.

Date: 2007-07-02 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dawnmipb.livejournal.com
And yet the very first picture I saw of it was the burning car sitting in the middle of the airport or wherever it was, and all I could think was, "... oops." So now all I can do when I even think about it is try desperately not to laugh.

Same here. I keep thinking, "They put handcuffs on a guy who had been on fire." And I'm smothering the giggles behind my hands. It's terrible, I know. Terrorism, awful, very serious....pwned.

And that's so sweet you haven't disposed of the cow.

Date: 2007-07-02 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com
I absolutely adored the Face of Boe reveal. I'm with you completely on being full of glee at having two of my favorite Who characters actually be the same guy. I was laughing my ass off. Having said that, the fic recced above was AWESOME. Really, really funny.

Also, I loved the finale ep. It certainly wasn't up to the quality of Utopia (which now ranks of one of my favorite Ten episodes ever) and The Sound of Drums but it was excellent. For me, it represented the best and worst that Doctor Who has to offer. The good = incredible acting, unbelievably emotional character moments, and bizarre twists and reveals. The bad = some truly cheese-tastic plot points. Yeah, I cringed a few times, but I was also glued to the screen and moved to tears. I can't really ask for more than that. I think you might love it. (At least, I hope you do.)

Date: 2007-07-02 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pie-is-good.livejournal.com
I listened to the commentary last night, and RTD never actually says it. In fact, there's a bit where he said he likes to think it's just a theory.

And even if he had, RTD has outright lied to us about things before.

Date: 2007-07-02 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-translate.livejournal.com
the cat is dying for attention

It's a cat. It's inherent to cat-ittude.

Date: 2007-07-02 10:05 pm (UTC)
titti: (Dr. Who Jack/Dr. ani)
From: [personal profile] titti
I listened to it again, and he does say that he went back and change things so Jack is the Face of Boe and then says the he's just a theory, but I took that last statement as a joke. I guess there is room for interpretation.

You're 100% right that he's lied before and the Doctor's reaction leaves room for backtracking in the future (by him or another writer).

Date: 2007-07-03 02:23 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] chandri.livejournal.com
I think personally I'm willing to believe the Jack-is-Boe just because it's SO COOL, even if it is totally stupid and random, plotwise.

Or maybe it's just the fact that when it comes to the Whoverse, I'm willing to believe just about ANYTHING. ;)

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