I want to hear about women.
Not fictional women. I want you to tell me about famous women throughout history who kicked fucking ass that you think are awesome.
EDIT: Ooo, ooo! You know who I like? Alice Roosevelt. She didn't take shit from anyone.
Not fictional women. I want you to tell me about famous women throughout history who kicked fucking ass that you think are awesome.
EDIT: Ooo, ooo! You know who I like? Alice Roosevelt. She didn't take shit from anyone.
They didn't look like Keira Knightley...
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Date: 2008-07-04 07:30 pm (UTC)Selina Cooper worked in a mill in Lancashire and, in 1889, she joined the Cotton Workers’ Union. The majority of the union members were women but it was run by men, who did very little to represent the women’s concerns on things like sexual harassment and toilet facilities. Nonetheless, Selina piled in and did what she could, even going so far as to learn basic medical skills to help workers who couldn’t afford doctors. As well as studying medicine, she followed the precept of the Women’s Co-operative Guild to encourage women to “discuss matters beyond the narrow confines of their domestic lives” by studying politics and history.
In 1892, the Independent Labour Party set up shop in Nelson and, attracted to its claims to support equal rights for women, Selina joined. (It was at the ILP that Selina met her husband, Robert Cooper, a committed socialist and suffragist. He’d been sacked from the Post Office for his political activities and now worked as a weaver. He wasn’t quite as awesome as Selina, because very few people can be, but he was no slouch.)
In 1900, she joined the North of England Society for Women’s Suffrage and organised a petition that was signed by women in the Lancashire cotton mills. Nearly thirty thousand women signed and Selina was chosen to present the petition to the House of Commons.
The following year, the ILP asked Selina to stand for election to the Board of Poor Law Guardians. Despite the local newspapers campaigning against her, Selina became the first working-class woman to be elected to the board. She was outvoted on most issues but did manage to win more freedom for elderly people in the workhouses. She continued to campaign for women’s suffrage and addressed the party conference on the subject in 1905.
Oh, and she still worked at t’mill. Where the middle-class proponents of universal suffrage could afford to do nothing but campaign, Selina and Robert had a family to provide for. She would go straight from working at the mill to addressing NUWSS rallies. Eventually, she was employed full-time as an NUWSS organiser and, in 1910, was chosen to present the case for women’s suffrage to the prime minister.
However, she was never a suffragette. Selina was a suffragist and strongly disapproved of the activities of the Pankhursts and their followers, feeling that rational debate was far more likely to achieve success than smashing shop windows and dying under a racehorse’s hooves.
During the First World War, Selina opposed military conscription and worked to help those men sent to prison for refusing to fight.
After the Qualification of Women Act was passed in 1918, the NUWSS tried to persuade the Labour Party to choose Selina as their candidate in the forthcoming general election but the male-dominated party refused.
However, Selina was elected to the town council and became a magistrate. In the 1930s, she campaigned against the rise of fascism.
“Women do not want their political power to enable them to boast that they are on equal terms with the men. They want to use it for the same purpose as men, to get better conditions… Every women in England is longing for her political freedom in order to make the lot of the worker pleasanter and to bring about reforms which are wanted. We do not want it as a mere plaything.”
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Date: 2008-07-04 07:31 pm (UTC)There's a new book out that's made up of letters written by the Founding Mothers and I WANTS IT, YES I DO.
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Date: 2008-07-04 07:43 pm (UTC)Well, to add another awesome female from history, Grace O'Malley, another female pirate and supporter of Irish rebellion who famously met with Queen Elizabeth.
Kate Dickinson
Date: 2008-07-04 07:33 pm (UTC)In 1875, bringing charges of sexual assault was enough to destroy a woman. This was even more the case when the perpetrator was a hero of the Crimea, a respected soldier and a close friend of the Prince of Wales. Nonetheless, Kate did so.
She had been travelling in a first-class carriage when Colonel Valentine Baker attacked her. With no communicating doors between compartments, once Kate had fought him off she had nowhere to go but the outside step of the speeding train. She clung on until the train reached the station, at which point Baker was found with his fly buttons still undone. (And bear in mind that, as a fashionable young lady of 1875, she would have been wearing something like this.)
There’s no denying that Kate had the privilege of her position and her family’s support, especially that of her lawyer brother. A few years earlier, a Miss Miller had been raped in a third class carriage and the perpetrator charged only with being drunk on a train and having annoyed a passenger, for which he was fined £6. Had Kate been poor, she would probably have been bribed into silence.
As it was, she stood her ground and Baker was eventually sentenced to a year in prison and a fine of £500. He was also dismissed from the Army.
That wasn’t the end of it for Kate, however. The debate as to whether Baker should have been excused a few ‘peccadilloes’ on account of his exemplary Army career raged for years, with the Prince of Wales coming down firmly on Baker’s side. Even a decade later, music hall songs were supportive of Baker and, although he was never reinstated in the Army, he was buried with full military honours.
However, the case brought the issue of men’s sexual licence into the public eye and aided future prosecutions. We don’t know what happened to Kate afterwards but to have the courage to bring charges in that situation is totally awesome.
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Date: 2008-07-04 07:38 pm (UTC)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudicca
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Date: 2008-07-04 07:39 pm (UTC)Mary Seacole
Date: 2008-07-04 07:42 pm (UTC)She soon got to hear about conditions in the Crimea and Florence Nightingale’s work there. Having learned a lot about nursing from her mother, Mary approached the recruiting offices and tried to volunteer. She was rejected four times, despite glowing references from high-ranking military officers, before she decided to strike out on her own.
She was approaching fifty when she set off for Turkey and, with her own money, established the British Hotel. Here, she provided food, shelter and care to soldiers. Whereas Nightingale’s hospitals were several days away, Mary would go right into the battlefields to provide first aid. The Times and Punch both reported her exploits and she became as famous as Nightingale.
Mary poured all her money into caring for the soldiers and the end of the Crimean War found her bankrupt. In recognition of her work, supporters including the Prince of Wales began fundraising for her, and she was able to end her life in London in some comfort.
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Date: 2008-07-04 07:40 pm (UTC)I think Hillary Clinton is awesome. She fucked up her campaign royally, but I still admire her a lot. I really hope she becomes sort of like the next Ted Kennedy. I think her heart is genuine and she really got off track. She is too smart to not be involved anymore. (unpopular opinions for 500, Alex)
I also really like Paula Dean. What? She cooks southern food and she looks beautiful while doing it and she is just funny and sensible as all get out. I heart her.
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Date: 2008-07-04 07:43 pm (UTC)I also love Lady Emma Hamilton, because she was born a blacksmith's daughter and got to a position of serious clout (ending up as Nelson's lover) by, basically, giving the sex she offered, unlike most of the woman of her age were trained to do. She even worked occasionally as a prostitute and aide to a medical fraud, and was, by all accounts, "immensely fat and spoke with a broad Lancashire accent".
Rosa Parks (like I need to explain why!). Elizabeth I of England who managed to not only damage control after the reign of her lunatic father and mental sister, but also to great and expand an empire, win wars, and secure the support and faith of her people all without ever having to tie herself to a husband FIVE HUNDRED YEARS AGO. Ada Lovelace, programmer. Anne Bonny and Mary Read, motherfucking PIRATES. There's Amy Johnson (pilot), Amelia Earheart (pilot), and spanning a few eras of current history I'd also say Sandi Toksvig, Tove Jansson, Indira Ghandi, and the late Benazir Bhutto. I think Eleanor Roosevelt was kind of awesome too.
There are a number of female explorers and anthropologists I've heard referenced but cannot remember the names of (if anyone else remembers some could they tell me?), and, frankly, my Grandmother and great-grandmother, who were both awesome in their own ways.
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Date: 2008-07-04 07:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-07-04 07:47 pm (UTC)Eleanor of Aquitane. If you've ever seen The Lion in Winter, Katherine Hepburn plays the part beautifully. This was a woman of power that led armies to crusade, managed some of the riches lands in all of Europe and still managed to hold the power of England despite her husband locking her in a tower.
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Date: 2008-07-04 07:47 pm (UTC)She was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize a couple years back, but came second to some guy named Al Gore.
Plus, look at her picture there... Beautiful woman, and you can tell she had an awesome sense of humor deep within.
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Date: 2008-07-04 09:11 pm (UTC)She lost to Al Gore?
Maybe I should start paying more attention to these things so I can be a little outraged when things like this happen.
What an amazing woman. Thank you for listing her here. I might never have heard of her otherwise.
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Date: 2008-07-04 07:56 pm (UTC)Susan B. Anthony
Rosa Parks
Irene Morgan Kirkaldy
Victoria Woodhull
Carrie Chapman Catt
Elizabeth Cady Stanton
Jeannette Rankin
Frances Perkins
Margaret Madeline Chase
Patsy Matsu Takemoto Mink
Shirley Anita St. Hill
Sandra Day
Carol Elizabeth Moseley Braun
Madeleine Albright
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Date: 2008-07-04 08:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-07-04 07:56 pm (UTC)Margaret Sanger, early birth control advocate.
Cheryl Haworth, quite possibly the strongest woman in the country. While I'm at it, all these female athletes.
Eleanor of Aquitaine
Date: 2008-07-04 07:56 pm (UTC)Her upbringing was unconventional in that “unlike most of her contemporaries, male and especially female, she was carefully educated.” According to some sources, in addition to reading and writing in her own language, Eleanor could read, write, and most likely speak Latin, was well versed in the art of the gai saber and quite possibly had a working knowledge of Aristotelian logic as shown from some of her letters.
Queens of England were traditionally regalis imperii participes, sharers in the kingship. After her experiences in France, Eleanor can only have been pleased by this. “She shared in its administration, issuing official documents either in her own right or on behalf of the king.” Some chroniclers say that in the king’s absences from England, the real ruler was the justiciar, but while “some of the bills she issued were drawn up in the name of the queen and the justiciar…; others, however, bore her name alone.”
Throughout her life, Eleanor ruled as a Duchess, Countess and Queen of two lands. She orchestrated a large-scale rebellion against the King of England that was nearly successful. She ruled as regent in all but name for her son Richard and after his death helped another of her sons, John, take the throne. The woman whose name was a Latin pun, Alia Aénor, meaning “another Aénor” was certainly anything but.
(Snippets from a paper on Eleanor--and thus I explain my pomposity. She was awesome. Srsly.)
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Date: 2008-07-04 07:58 pm (UTC)Particularly Elizabeth Peabody. She was basically the organizer for the Massachusetts Transcendentalist movement, brought kindergarten to the United States, and instituted a tradition of teaching small children foreign languages by making them read and speak those languages.
Also, never got married. Ever.
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Date: 2008-07-04 08:12 pm (UTC)I have way too many ancient women that I love dearly from Artemisia of Halikarnassos (admiral) and Olympias of Epiros and Makedonia (queen, actress, priestess) to Cleopatra (7 languages people, 7 LANGUAGES - incidentally, the only Egyptian ruler to ever learn Hebrew) and Hypatia of Alexandria (mathematician). Lesser known women include Queen Dynamis of the Bosporan Kingdom and Eurydice of Macedonia, wife of Phillip III, who went to battle against Olympias.
In the Byzantine era, you've got to love the Empress Theodora and Princess Anna Komnenina, one of the greatest Byzantine historians.
Wow, this went on longer than I thought. I guess I just love kickass women!
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Date: 2008-07-04 08:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-07-04 08:06 pm (UTC)My favorite story about her, however, involves our mathematics building. The city of St. Paul wanted to build a street through the college campus, despite arguments from the college that they wanted it to remain a closed campus. Since the city wouldn't listen, Sister Antonia decided to be proactive. The morning that construction was due to start to extend the street, the builders were greeted with the base for a brand new building set right in the middle of the intended area. Today, Prior Avenue stops at the college and begins again on the other side, instead of going through.
Perhaps she's not quite as famous as the rest of the ladies on this list, but she's one of my favorites. :)
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Date: 2008-07-04 08:04 pm (UTC)Even monks had to admit that she was the real power in the Midlands, and you know what they used to be like about women with power.
Lyudmila Pavlichenko.
While I'm generally against killing, I really think you can make an exception when it comes to Nazis.
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Date: 2008-07-04 08:04 pm (UTC)Frances Perkins---First female Secretary of Labor under FDR. She was instrumental in getting the minimum wage law passed among other protections. Plus, she went to court to fight for the right of retaining her maiden name after she married.
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Date: 2008-07-04 08:05 pm (UTC)Eleanor of Aquitaine
Empress Matilda
Hypatia
Grace o'Malley
Sally Ride
Alice Paul
Dian Fossey
Maria Mitchell
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Date: 2008-07-04 08:10 pm (UTC)Admiral Grace Hopper. Wikipedia entry here.
Upshot: a forerunner in the computer sciences, she retired and was reinstated several times, eventually earning the rank of Admiral.
She is also one of the few women for whom a ship has been named after. It's a destroyer.
My father, a fan of her career for many years, likes to tell the story of the time she asked how far a particular kind of signal travels in a second. She was handed a piece of copper wire, one foot long.
When she died, he joked "I guess she's now six seconds under."
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Date: 2008-07-04 08:15 pm (UTC)Nellie Bly I think was already mentioned, but holy shit that woman deserves props. She faked a mental illness to get into an asylum where she could have been raped, killed, seriously injured, or some combination of the three to get the word out. She got kicked out of Mexico for writing a similar expose. Also, she beat Jules Verne at his own game (Around the World in 80 Days), ran her own company, invented the steel drum, and somehow found the time at the end of her life to take care of orphaned mixed-race kids- and in that time period? DAMN. She is my personal hero.