Clearly I'm losing it.
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apocalypsosI just watched video of the Obamas making tuna salad from an old 60 Minutes interview. Apparently I'm running out of things to watch. Heh.
Oh, and I finished Breaking Dawn.
--You know, it was fucking annoying as is when Bella was referring to her parents by their first names in the text but I might have let it slide if it were just her, and then it switched to Jacob's POV and he was calling his dad "Billy." No, I'm sorry, fuck THAT.
-- I thought Renesmee looked stupid before and then I read it in context. And the thing is, I started to realize that the extra E at the end was killing it for me (you know, as much as that awful name can be killed). Every time somebody called her Nessie, I called her Smee in my head. It made for a lot of stupid Peter Pan jokes.
-- Boy, I thought I hated Bella when she was human. Oh, it got so much worse after the Goriest Discovery Health Special EVER. Oh, she's good at everything? Oh, lovely. I'm sure that'll fix that problem with her being so fucking boring.
-- Emmett is my favorite. I could read an entire book about him alternately watching football games on cable and punching things, as long as Smeyer didn't write it.
-- No, Smeyer, Jacob imprinting on the infant actually IS creepy. In about a THOUSAND different ways. Sorry!
-- The final "battle" was the least exciting "fight" I've ever seen. I've been involved in more interesting rounds of thumb wrestling. Also, it amused me how when it supposedly looked they were all going to die (did too! Smeyer said so!), it seemed like she named every damn person who showed up with the Cullens and what they did before they thought they were going to die. "Rosalie and Emmett made out. Renesmee snuggled with Jacob, who mostly just sat there being russet-colored. Edward and I hugged in a very chaste way. The Romanian vampires flapped their capes around. Sam, Embry, Quil, Paul, Jared, Leah, Seth, and the forty-seven million wolves we didn't get to meet and were too stupid to know would turn if we held a vamp convention at the house panted heavily. The uncomfortable portrait of Amazonian natives I got from an old issue of National Geographic did something vaguely stereotypical. Crazy adventuresome Garrett went extreme skydiving. Kate guest-starred on Heroes when Kristen Bell had to go in for an appendectomy. AND SO ON."
-- Oh, oh! But the best was the beginning of the very last chapter, which starts out with Edward saying something like, "... so you see, the deciding factor that saved us all was Bella." YOU KNOW, JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM WHO WAS ALSO THERE.
-- Exactly how drunk was the editor? Because the only reason I didn't start marking the errors was because it's a library book.
-- The paternity thing bugs me even more now. I know it's not BD that had the whole Embry thing, but seriously, how fucking difficult was that to answer? There were three possibilities! PICK ONE. Oh, my God, even I can give a thoughtful response to that. Watch.
He's Quil's brother. This way, nobody's status as Alpha gets complicated, Embry gets a brother he clearly likes, and Billy doesn't look like a jerk who cheated on his dead wife.
BOY, THAT WAS HARD. *headdesk*
Oh, and I finished Breaking Dawn.
--You know, it was fucking annoying as is when Bella was referring to her parents by their first names in the text but I might have let it slide if it were just her, and then it switched to Jacob's POV and he was calling his dad "Billy." No, I'm sorry, fuck THAT.
-- I thought Renesmee looked stupid before and then I read it in context. And the thing is, I started to realize that the extra E at the end was killing it for me (you know, as much as that awful name can be killed). Every time somebody called her Nessie, I called her Smee in my head. It made for a lot of stupid Peter Pan jokes.
-- Boy, I thought I hated Bella when she was human. Oh, it got so much worse after the Goriest Discovery Health Special EVER. Oh, she's good at everything? Oh, lovely. I'm sure that'll fix that problem with her being so fucking boring.
-- Emmett is my favorite. I could read an entire book about him alternately watching football games on cable and punching things, as long as Smeyer didn't write it.
-- No, Smeyer, Jacob imprinting on the infant actually IS creepy. In about a THOUSAND different ways. Sorry!
-- The final "battle" was the least exciting "fight" I've ever seen. I've been involved in more interesting rounds of thumb wrestling. Also, it amused me how when it supposedly looked they were all going to die (did too! Smeyer said so!), it seemed like she named every damn person who showed up with the Cullens and what they did before they thought they were going to die. "Rosalie and Emmett made out. Renesmee snuggled with Jacob, who mostly just sat there being russet-colored. Edward and I hugged in a very chaste way. The Romanian vampires flapped their capes around. Sam, Embry, Quil, Paul, Jared, Leah, Seth, and the forty-seven million wolves we didn't get to meet and were too stupid to know would turn if we held a vamp convention at the house panted heavily. The uncomfortable portrait of Amazonian natives I got from an old issue of National Geographic did something vaguely stereotypical. Crazy adventuresome Garrett went extreme skydiving. Kate guest-starred on Heroes when Kristen Bell had to go in for an appendectomy. AND SO ON."
-- Oh, oh! But the best was the beginning of the very last chapter, which starts out with Edward saying something like, "... so you see, the deciding factor that saved us all was Bella." YOU KNOW, JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM WHO WAS ALSO THERE.
-- Exactly how drunk was the editor? Because the only reason I didn't start marking the errors was because it's a library book.
-- The paternity thing bugs me even more now. I know it's not BD that had the whole Embry thing, but seriously, how fucking difficult was that to answer? There were three possibilities! PICK ONE. Oh, my God, even I can give a thoughtful response to that. Watch.
He's Quil's brother. This way, nobody's status as Alpha gets complicated, Embry gets a brother he clearly likes, and Billy doesn't look like a jerk who cheated on his dead wife.
BOY, THAT WAS HARD. *headdesk*
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Date: 2008-11-10 04:45 pm (UTC)Oh, and Bella/SMeyers goes from thinking that this is very weird to thinking that this is very sweet and self-sacrificing and romantic in 2.1 seconds.
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Date: 2008-11-10 05:50 pm (UTC)That's a bad ripoff of Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan, where Q raises O from early childhood and they eventually drift into being lovers.
Ick.
I thought I was pushing it by letting a slave actually care about his master. This...this makes me look tame.
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Date: 2008-11-10 08:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-10 08:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-16 11:58 pm (UTC)Um, nope. I was born and raised Mormon; that's just not accurate in terms of church theology. As for Mormon culture... eh, you'll probably find some of the 'one true love' thing, but it's not actually doctrine.
No arranged marriages, either, at least not in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I'm using the full name for a reason--some splinter groups that are often referred to as Mormon or fundamentalist Mormon or other variations definitely do arrange marriages for young girls. But they're not members of my church, they're separate. And Meyers is LDS, not a member of one of the splinter groups.
Sorry for butting in on
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Date: 2008-11-17 12:12 am (UTC)In 1857, Young stated that every person was "a son or a daughter of [the Father]. In the spirit world their spirits were first begotten and brought forth, and they lived there with their parents for ages before they came here." 4 J.D. 218.
I'm sorry if I was wrong. In the few books I've read on real-life Mormons, the people being written about spoke of families and spouses being arranged before birth, and the quote does sound like Young was talking about families in heaven and on earth.
No arranged marriages, either, at least not in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I'm using the full name for a reason--some splinter groups that are often referred to as Mormon or fundamentalist Mormon or other variations definitely do arrange marriages for young girls. But they're not members of my church, they're separate.
Ah, then I was probably thinking of one of the splinter groups. I don't recall anyone making distinctions in the books I read--everything just came under the heading of Mormon.
Again, I apologize.
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Date: 2008-11-17 12:29 am (UTC)That being said, once a couple does get married, I don't think it's by accident which children are sent to them. Actually I don't think it's a coincidence where/when anyone is born. /end Rose's theology
The source for your quote (Journal of Discourses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journal_of_Discourses)) isn't actually church canon, though it's certainly widely used and referenced.
eta: Regarding that quote you mentioned, I think it's a reasonably common Mormon cultural belief that all our families are pre-arranged, etc. I didn't grow up in a dominant Mormon culture, even though I'm a life-long member. Stephanie Meyers did--or at least something close to it, since Arizona has a lot of Latter-Day Saints. I grew up in Oklahoma and there just weren't enough members there to develop an extensive Mormon culture.