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Oscar plays the guessing games

The gang at AMPAS has decided that what the Oscar ceremony needs is suspense. So their plan this year -- they're not announcing the presenters beforehand.

Now my first reactions are as follows:

1. Who gives a shit about the fucking presenters?! I never tuned in for them, have you?

2. The Oscars don't need suspense. They already have that. We don't know who the fucking winners are beforehand.

3. You know what I think the Oscars need? I think they need to get off their high horse about nominating comedy and animation. I think that while I don't think they should nominate more popular movies just 'cause, it would really be nice if they could find a way to put the nominees in wider release before the ceremony so people get a chance to see them and therefore have more involvement in the ceremony than they usually do when they've only seen a handful of the nominees. I think they need to fire Bruce Vilanch and get comedy writers who are actually funny. I think they need to start serving liquor to the nominees like the Golden Globes does. I think they need to trim the fat and cut out some of the dumb performances they throw in there that don't need to be there and the tacky bantering sessions the presenters go through. I think they need to stop being douchebags and playing people off the stage in the middle of acceptance speeches. I think they need more goddamn surprises when it comes to who'll win. Mostly what I think they should do is get everybody wasted and just boil it down to presenting the awards.

But what I think they need to do far less than any of these is not announce the fucking presenters.

... ahem.

EDIT: It's possible I feel strongly about this.

Date: 2009-01-15 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadow-phoenix2.livejournal.com
Yeah, somehow I think Titanic will easily pull bigger crowds than No Country for Old Men. *Facepalm.*

I think it was last years Oscars, they did a montage of all the people/fashion arrivals and things, to Kylie Minogue's "Wow." It was amazing - the perfect song for that moment. I like watching the Oscars! I'll boost ratings! ^_~

Agreed on the presenters! Most people aren't watching to see them.

Date: 2009-01-15 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
It just really bugs me that January's dead in the movie theater, notorious as a dumping ground for cinematic shit the studios never wanted to put out in the first place, when they could be putting out their award nominees in greater rotation. I still can't see Slumdog Millionaire, Milk, Revolutionary Road, The Wrestler, and a handful of the other movies that are bound to be nominated in my local theaters. I'd have to drive to New Jersey or NY for that. There's a reason people resort to bootlegs for this crap. *grumbles*

Date: 2009-01-15 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coolgrin.livejournal.com
I agree.

Date: 2009-01-15 11:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] florahart
Maybe they ought to change the dates--the 2010 eligibles are released before ...October 15 or something. So the ones that are in slower release get to places which are not New York and LA sometime before the ceremony. Or change what "released" means. Or something. Because yeah, I *can* see Slumdog Millionaire or Milk--I think--at the local arty place, but its hours are weird, and I don't think Revolutionary Road has been here yet--and my town is not exactly the height of urban, but it does have an arty place and a couple of big multiplexes and stuff. BAH.

Also, I sort of want them to not script the presenters' banter because it is usually lame. Maybe they could just bring up comedians who are inclined toward ad-lib, pair them with hapless straight wo/men, and let them riff on whatever they want for a couple of minutes, then present a handful of awards. You know, Robin Williams and like, Miley Cyrus or something. Though that would probably pull some of the attention away from the award-getters. But, it would be more fun to watch.

Heh.

Date: 2009-01-15 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Yeah, changing the eligibility date would work, too. It's like with the Golden Globes -- they piss and moan about screeners making it onto the internet but contraband screeners are how goofballs like me who have no other options see the movies. And seeing those movies draws you into the awards. I like watching them anyway, but I prefer knowing why they won. Sally Hawkins and Mickey Rourke's wins were a lot more fun to watch and root for knowing that they earned them.

They just really need to do something about the insipid banter somehow. I'm not sure about the ad-libbing -- I mean, okay, Robin and Miley might work because as much as I might dislike her she can take a joke. They could really do themselves a favor if they just narrowed down the presenters to the ones who can tell or take a joke, 'cause seriously, as good as some of these actors are, a lot of them have a lousy sense of humor. (God only knows when Sean Penn lost his, but ... yeah, there's one.) They need to lighten it up because there aren't a lot of people at the Oscars who go up there with a comedy routine in mind if they win. There's two kinds of winners at the Oscars for the most part, the ones who are serious and/or cry and the ones who end up making you laugh, and there aren't that many of the second kind.

Ugh. It's just ... god, people are not going to wait with bated breath to see who the presenters are, for crying out loud. I'd love to know which idiot thought that was a good idea.

Date: 2009-01-16 04:20 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] chaneen.livejournal.com
Oh man, Sean Penn! I thought I was the only person who remembered that "Jude Law is one of the finest actors of our time" thing.

And I just can't believe how few of the likely nominated films we've gotten this year. Benjamin Button and Grand Turino, and that's it so far. I worked in movie theaters for ages, and have never seen a year like this.

I think they should cut out all of the montages except the dead people. Most of the musical performances can go too. This way if people actually want to thank anyone they can, you know?

Date: 2009-01-16 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Oh, Cinemark just got The Reader. I checked today just out of curiosity. And they've had Doubt for a while now. So that's ... four. Ugh.

Yeah, that Sean Penn thing stuck with me for some reason. Jesus, Sean, it's called a sense of humor.

If they ever got rid of the "In Memorium" montage I'd be pissed as hell, but a lot of the musical performances are just too much. There's a reason I don't watch the Grammy awards.

Date: 2009-01-16 04:39 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] chaneen.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah, I totally forgot about Doubt! Maybe I'll go see that this weekend. I think I didn't notice The Reader in the list of show times, since I was so irritated that we got Paul Blart Mall Cop instead of movies that might actually be worth seeing.

I think they should show a clip of the nominated song being used in the film (or a montage of scenes set to that song, whatever), a la what they do for the best picture nominees. Then we could do without the whole "which one of these songs is Beyonce going to perform" hoopla of the last couple of years.

Date: 2009-01-16 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
While I agree with you on everything, I actually think it's an actively stupid idea not to announce the presenters. Here's the thing: no one really cares and there's no suspense either way. But at least if you tell people, "Hey, here's some famous people who will be there," they'll be like, "Hey, I like that actor, maybe I'll flip channels and watch." You at least give people a mild incentive to watch if you tell them. If you don't tell them, they don't care at all.

Date: 2009-01-16 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Yeah, I guess I can see that. Either way it's such a dumb move. It's no wonder the ratings are down if this is their idea of a winning concept.

Date: 2009-01-16 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
See, I don't care because I know I'll be watching it anyway; I'll be pissing and moaning and liveblogging and loving it the whole way. They're trying to bring in a bigger mainstream audience--which is exactly the demographic they need to lure in with Big Stahs, not "suspense."

Date: 2009-01-16 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etod.livejournal.com
Sadly, these days I actually do watch mostly for who I know is going to be there/presenting. And usually because of two things--

1. The majority of the movies nominated I won't even have a hope of seeing until they win a major award at the Oscars unless I choose to drive 2 hours to San Antonio or 3 hours to Austin. Like Slumdog Millionaire or The Wrestler? If neither of them ends up cashing in big on Oscar night, I won't see them until they hit DVD. And Milk doesn't even have a fighting chance of showing up here, awards or not. (Meanwhile Beverly Hills Chihuahua and High School Musical 3 continue to play in our local theaters. :[ ) So I really have no idea why I should be excited for like half of what is even being nominated.

2. By the time the Oscars come around, it's almost certain who's going to win what, so what's the point of surprise? :\

And while I'll watch the show regardless because I'm an entertainment junkie, I actually get giddy and bouncy if I know I might have a chance of seeing Star X or Star Y at the pre-show festivities or presenting an award.

Date: 2009-01-16 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gruyere.livejournal.com
In regards to your first point, I can't help but quote Jimmy Carr:

"I saw a commercial on TV the other day. It said, 'Little Nukuti has to walk 3 hours to get water for her family.' And I couldn't help thinking, 'she should move.'"

Date: 2009-01-16 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etod.livejournal.com
I would move in a heartbeat if it weren't for the fact that my husband is tied to a union. No union openings in SA or Austin or Houston means I'm stuck where I am because his salary far, far, far outshines the paltry amount I get paid (and would ever get paid, probably) and my benefits.

I do frequently make the trek to SA or Austin to watch films (I'm sad to say that is how I ended up being able to see Chicago on the screen a few years ago), but it does get frustrating. :\

Date: 2009-01-16 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gruyere.livejournal.com
God bless the internet, at least.

Date: 2009-01-16 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animeartistjo.livejournal.com
*stands and applauds*

And that's why I just youtube it afterwards. XD Or read the newspaper for the barebones.

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