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Now I just have to make up the chart and arrange the assignments.

Is it weird that this is oddly comforting? Then again, that might just be the Smirnoff.

I don't know, I've just been feeling a bit burned on fandom lately, I suppose. Is it bad that I love this season of Supernatural, that I like seeing the boys' relationship developing in new ways even if it isn't them becoming closer, that I prefer the mytharc to too much MOTW stuff because too many in a row make me feel like I'm watching cheap syndication schlock, that I like Castiel and Ruby just fine the way they are? I feel like I spend all of my time anymore sitting on my hands and biting my lip and trying not to ruin it for other people by piping up in a wee teeny-tiny voice, "Um, *I* like it. *blush*" Ugh, I need a new backbone or something. (I should not read [livejournal.com profile] fandomsecrets when I'm already not in a good mood, I guess.)

Bah. I'm gonna put on End Day and whichever other disaster thingies I can find and mod the HELL out of this ficathon.

Date: 2009-04-18 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherrymmm.livejournal.com
I like this season too. I like the story and Castiel and all of the mythology. I do dislike Ruby but only the actress, I just really like KC so it's hard for me to get behind nuRuby.

No need to be shy about it, we can stand tall together! *whoop* (yes, I may actually be the dork my daughter always calls me.)

Date: 2009-04-18 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thenetwork.livejournal.com
I likwe this season too. It's in fact more interesting than the others. You're not alone!

uhm...

Date: 2009-04-18 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catdancerz.livejournal.com
fandom secrets has some incredibly nasty bitter stuff in it, and i stopped reading it months ago because no matter WHAT you like someone on there is going to hate it and try to make you hate it too...sometimes not knowing is the best alternative in cases like that, so just don't look there anymore...so yeah...there are a lot of good things about this season, no question...and some clunky anvils too, but over all, yeah, its definitely bringing it on, no question...no reason for you to hide that opinion...a LOT of people share it...

Date: 2009-04-18 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eilonwy.livejournal.com
Is it bad that I love this season of Supernatural, that I like seeing the boys' relationship developing in new ways even if it isn't them becoming closer, that I prefer the mytharc to too much MOTW stuff because too many in a row make me feel like I'm watching cheap syndication schlock, that I like Castiel and Ruby just fine the way they are?

Of course not. I suspect most people's problems with this season is how different it is in many ways from previous seasons. I have to admit to my own discomfort over this season at first, but I've totally gotten into it, and am waiting with bated breath for Thursday. [Mind you, I watched seasons 1, 2 and 3 (and then 4) in roughly a 3 week span, so getting to season 4 was a bit like whiplash, personally.] (Do I still have issues with this season? Hm, yes, but mostly because, dammit, I want more Sam; I want to know what's going on in his head and I *am* scared that next season is going to become the Dean'n'Castiel show, but I know those are my issues to deal with. I've written (somewhat extensively) in my own LJ about the nature of televised storytelling and how to balance a story along with the fans, and sometimes I think that SPN might lose that balance here and there, and that also scares me. But then an episode like the last one will come along and I'm just floored by its brilliance and the self-awareness of Kripke & Ko, and am reassured.

I love Castiel, with the caveat that in larger doses I might not as much, but we'll just have to wait and see-- why borrow trouble? I ... really kinda hate Ruby and always have, although I did my best to give both her incarnations fair shakes. I don't want to be a fangirl who just gets upset because someone female is near the Winchesters. But I really feel that Genevieve Cortese cannot act, and also, that until we get more trustworthy backstory on/from Ruby, I am perfectly justified in thinking that a) she's a *demon* and therefore evil, and b) she has her own agenda. And also, to me at least, "On the Head of a Pin", between her expression when Sam was drinking her blood and her comment that "fire is our friend," I feel vindicated in my thinking she is of the evil. Anyway, I think I wrote about this in my LJ, too, so I shan't repeat myself (more). That said? MY opinions, and the opinions of the rest of fandom should never, ever be the cause of someone else's distress, or disallowal (which apparently not a word) of someone else's opinion. That just totally sucks. I love a good debate about this, that and the other thing when it comes to SPN.

I feel like I spend all of my time anymore sitting on my hands and biting my lip and trying not to ruin it for other people by piping up in a wee teeny-tiny voice, "Um, *I* like it. *blush*"

Now this is a bad thing. I'm sorry to hear that fandom has made you feel this way. :(

Um, on the bright side, Thursday isn't too far away?

Date: 2009-04-18 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinylegacies.livejournal.com
I'm mostly digging this season, though some of the eps right after the mid-season break were a little weak, IMO.

My biggest issue, which I've mentioned to you before, is that I wish we were seeing more of the bad guys than we are :D

But I do like Castiel and Ruby and Anna and all of the other recurring characters we've gotten this season.

Date: 2009-04-18 11:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] suaine.livejournal.com
You know, I like Anna. This is apparently not on. I really like her and I think the actress is kind of awesome. People look at me funny when I say that. (Ruby and Castiel I don't really care about, but I don't dislike them. Ruby is pretty, and Castiel makes for some great humor.)

And the mytharc? Had me at "angel of the lord". I just really wish they don't do to Lucifer what they did to Lillith.

Date: 2009-04-19 04:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] minim_calibre
::clings to you::

I, too, like Anna. (I like Castiel and Ruby, too, but feel less alone in that.)

Date: 2009-04-19 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 20thcenturyvole.livejournal.com
I have seen people on my flist making big meta posts about how, you know, it was really hard, but little by little they're coming to terms with this season, and it's a struggle but they're learning to not loathe Castiel, and forgive him for replacing Sammy, and they still hold out hope that Sam and Dean's relationship can be salvaged and I keep going what? What? Did I miss something? Are - are we watching the same thing? It makes me feel uncomfortably like that person I hate, the person with the big bucket of cold water going IT'S A TV SHOW FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. Fandom, don't make me come over there.

Personally, I absofrigginlutely love this season and it's mytharc and Castiel, and while I thought old Ruby had more sass I'm digging this one too. The show keeps impressing the fuck out of me that it manages to balance a Buffy-style teen-friendly emotional arc and an X-Files style mythology arc without bogging down in its own wank like those two shows eventually did. I mean, I always enjoyed the monsters and pretty boys, but the insanely good, consistant and creative worldbuilding really snuck up on me.

Date: 2009-04-19 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budclare.livejournal.com
It makes me feel uncomfortably like that person I hate, the person with the big bucket of cold water going IT'S A TV SHOW FOR CHRIST'S SAKE.

I came to terms with being that person years ago, when it became clear that even several of my friends feel the need to turn into total assholes every time the creators of their favorite shows make even the tiniest decision that they disagree with. Jesus fucking Christ, people. Get some fucking perspective already.

Someday I'm going to give up and just start yelling at people to get off my lawn. :(

In summation, yay Supernatural! :D


(Cleverly posting this in the right thread this time. 'Cause I'm smart.)

Date: 2009-04-19 01:07 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] charlie-d-blue.livejournal.com
I mean, I always enjoyed the monsters and pretty boys, but the insanely good, consistant and creative worldbuilding really snuck up on me.

Exactly. I am loving that they're exploring the limits of the Supernatural world rather than just sticking with what works, and that they continually challenge the boundaries, not just for the sake of it, but to actually push the plot into - yes, sometimes uncomfortable - but generally amazing, dark, psychological places.

Date: 2009-04-19 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dark-roast.livejournal.com
I adore this season -- especially how it keeps surprising me. But, I pretty much love everything about Show. It can do no wrong, as far as I'm concerned. I liked old Ruby, and I like new Ruby. Can't get enough Castiel and Anna. I loved Bela. Loved Pam. Want more Missouri. Heck, I even liked Jo. And "No Exit" is one of my favorite episodes.

I'm just not very picky, I guess.

Date: 2009-04-19 01:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vivien
I enjoy the season! But then, I've enjoyed SPN for the whole ride, with very little quibbling. I miss you writing about SPN, too. You are one of the few people who has opinions I can read and not roll my eyes in frustration.

This in no way indicates you should write to please me. I'm just sayin' I miss your SPN views. :)

Date: 2009-04-19 01:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amaresu
I had this problem last season, that repeated this season, in that I watched the first 5 or 6 episodes and then stopped watching because I got so mad, but then when the back 5 rolled around I picked it back up again. I find the common factor is bothering to read what other fans are writing. The further I stay from Supernatural fandom the better my experience.

Personally, once I started watching this season (like a week ago) I fell in love with it. I love where they're going and what they've been building. But I've always liked the things it seems like a large number of Supernatural fans don't.

Also Supernatural fandom seems to have an over abundance of fans with entitlement issues.


--random person who reads your journal.

Date: 2009-04-19 04:38 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] miriad.livejournal.com
I've been loving this season. I like where it's going, I like where it's been. I never liked Ruby and this new incarnation isn't better (to me) than the first but I am really curious as to WHY she's doing what she's doing.

I get kind of angry at the assumption by some fans that if they don't like how things are going then no one else should either.

Date: 2009-04-19 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosykate.livejournal.com
I like it, too! I try to look only at episode reactions that have a lot of CAPSLOCK and exclamation points in the header so as to avoid anything unpleasant :p

As someone who only discoverd SPN over last summer, and I guess I didn't get as emotionally fixated upon the MOTW format and thus am really enjoying the season-long storyline? But really, prior seasons had over-arching themes, too, so I'm afraid I don't understand where the basis for these arguements come from. Then again, [livejournal.com profile] fandomsecrets doesn't have to make sense.

Date: 2009-04-19 09:14 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fringedweller.livejournal.com
Er, hi. I friended you for your amazing fic, and I was going to just lurk quietly for ever more because I'm sort of blown away by your devotion to your writing. I would love to have the ability you have, obviously, but more than that I'd love to have your self control to actually sit and write things. I have this story in my head (non-fandom related) that will probably never come out, and when you post about writing your novels it makes me feel more motivated about writing mine.

Anyway, the point of this post was to say that I'm in total agreement with you. I love this season. I have no problem with Ruby in either of her incarnations, I think Castiel is great and I love that the boys are developing as characters even if that means that they're pulling apart from each other. As another poster said, it's a television show. A great one, yes, but just a television show. I'm amazed that some people have so little in their lives that they're churning out so much spite and vitriol about it. If they hate it that much, why not just stop watching?

In other words, you're not alone. Maybe we sane ones should be as loud as the haters?

Date: 2009-04-19 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] earis.livejournal.com
Is it bad that I love this season of Supernatural, that I like seeing the boys' relationship developing in new ways even if it isn't them becoming closer, that I prefer the mytharc to too much MOTW stuff because too many in a row make me feel like I'm watching cheap syndication schlock, that I like Castiel and Ruby just fine the way they are?

It is not bad at all. I love this season. I think, given how it ends, it's the best season so far (even better than season 2- so far my favorite season). And they have to explore the boys' new relationship. It has to hurt and be uncomfortable and be new and different otherwise, hello, what's the story?

Date: 2009-04-19 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorcha-feanor.livejournal.com
I love this season of Supernatural! I especially love Castiel.

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