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No-Carb Eating Couple Booted From Buffet -- Here, pal, let me help you out. It's very nice that you're on the Atkins Diet and can't eat carbs because you're trying to lose weight. But there's a certain point where your "no carbs" advantage is cancelled out by the "too many damn calories" option, and I'm guessing that comes a bit before twelve freakin' slices of roast beef. So, yeah. Perhaps going to an all-you-can-eat buffet when you're on a diet is a bad idea, at the very least on a symbolic level. Sheesh.

You know what that reminded me of? The one time when I went to the movies and was waiting to get popcorn when the two airheads behind me noticed that the theater sold sugar-free candy. I don't know about you, but if I noticed this, my first thought would have been that it was probably candy meant for diabetics, then maybe for parents who didn't want their kids eating sugar.

My first thought would not have been, as the one airhead said, "Oh, those must be for people on the Atkins diet!"

Date: 2004-04-25 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallofrain.livejournal.com
Fucking Atkins diet is /everywhere/ now. It's the latest fad. I was on it for three months and it worked great for me, but I wasn't taking part in all these 'low carb' trends you seen plastered all over the place now. I actually ate fresh foods and prepared my meals myself rather than filled myself with the preprocessed garbage you find in the stores and fast food resturants. I think that's half the reason why I lost weight, regardless of my carb intake.

I hate commercialism.

Date: 2004-04-25 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talmanes.livejournal.com
I'm completely with you on this. I lost weight on Atkins, but I went out grocery shopping for fresh veggies and meats, as well as easy-to-prepare foods, and I ate at home six out of seven days a week (and the day I ate out, being Sunday with the guys, I usually had a salad or something that was primarily protein). I wasn't going to buffets and eating entire cows.

One of the main points of Atkins is that it encourages you to eat if you're hungry--being hungry is a response to your stomach wanting nourishment. But at the point where you're eating your twelfth helping of roast beef at a buffet, you should really stop and consider whether or not your stomach has caught up with the last dozen slabs of animal you've been trying to choke it with. Eating consistently until you're not hungry results in over-feeding yourself, because the body's hunger response doesn't stop until well after you're fed. That's why people recommend small portions in the first place, because you find that ten minutes after you're done eating, you're not as hungry as you thought you were.

Damn. People who read the first chapter of Atkins and then think they know what they're doing fucking kill me. You need to read the whole damn book, and you need to follow the program as it's written. I guess we're just smarter than the average illiterate idiot.

Re: Not to mention the arrogences of...

Date: 2004-04-25 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talmanes.livejournal.com
I have trouble imagining myself hungry after choking down eleven slabs of roast beef, and I'm a big guy who loves roast beef. I think roast beef is the reason cows were invented, and I have an appetite like a wolverine when I'm at "buffet"-level hungry, and I still can't see this happening with anyone who wasn't an absolute beefasaur that sweats butter and pisses cholesterol. So bearing that in mind, I'm guessing the Hutts are the kind of fatheaded fatasses who felt that they were being cheated of their McDonald-given right to gorge themselves a new lovehandle. I am not at all surprised that they asked for a refund and caused a commotion because the manager refused to kill another cow for their eating pleasure.

Date: 2004-04-25 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallofrain.livejournal.com
And if you're doing the diet right in the first place, often you find that your hunger actually diminishes. I actually had to force myself onto a schedule after awhile to make sure I got 3 proper meals a day. After awhile I just wasn't hungry anymore all that often. I never had the urge to consume 12 slabs of roast beef, for crissakes.

I also never expected the rest of the world to cater to my diet. I was thrilled to find some low carb chocolate to nibble on when I had a chocolate fix, but I didn't eat it incessantly or expect people to serve low carb things to me on a platter. These people who go out and eat all the 'low carb' goodies without actually following the book and the diet to the letter make me want to get out a clue bat and start swinging.

Date: 2004-04-25 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talmanes.livejournal.com
I hear you on that. After a matter of days (I mean, we're talking three), I was eating way less, hungry less often, and flat out uninterested in consuming mass quantities. I couldn't even force a dozen hunks of cowflesh down on an empty stomach back then (and honestly, I'm thinking of doing it again for precisely that reason, since I'm back to eating like I want to kill my heart).

I was happy at first when I saw that grocery stores were offering Atkins products that were low carb, because it meant that if I really wanted to, I could make bread or brownies or something, and it wouldn't totally fuck my diet (though all of that stuff is intended for the maintenance diet, not induction). Then restaurants started doing it, then fast food, and now it's just sort of out of control. On one hand, it's okay, because hey--I might eat that stuff. But on the other hand, it just seems like overkill for a diet that was intended to get you to eat at home. That, and people constantly criticize the diet or tout its virtues without actually knowing anything about it. That kills me.

Date: 2004-04-25 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallofrain.livejournal.com
Like anything else, it's great in moderation. Cravings can easily be satisfied (I just have a problem with people who eat low carb chocolates and low carb bars and all the other low carb 'goodies' not meant to be consumed alone or constantly and them complain about the diet >_<).

But it's on overload now and you just can't get away from it. My diet was only a small portion of my life, not the end all and be all. I lost 30 lbs on it, and I'm about to go back on a modified version of it. (I'm not really needing to lose weight, but I do need to control my blood sugar as diabetes runs in my family.)

The ignorance is my biggest rant. Like any diet, this one takes willpower, too. But people see 'you can eat what you want!' and think it's going to be 'easier' somehow. When they realize it really is a commitment, they drop out and grumble about it.

Date: 2004-04-25 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] overloved.livejournal.com
If I didn't know any better, I'd think that was an Onion article. And why in god's name would you go to a place called "Chuck A Rama." How is that appetizing?

Only in Utah

Date: 2004-04-25 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zeelee-penguin.livejournal.com
I'm from Salt Lake, and strangely enough, that's a really popular restaurant there. They have this whole cowboy/pioneer theme going on. I've never been there, as yeah, the name = ew.

*happy sigh* Man, I just love my city sometimes.

Date: 2004-04-25 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anne-jumps.livejournal.com
I know, right? "Chuck-A-Rama."

Yeah, you were really discriminated against. Like, having your greedy ass kicked out of a buffet is on par with being attacked or denied the right to vote.

Date: 2004-04-26 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acetal.livejournal.com
Sounds like somewhere Mr Creosote would go.

Date: 2004-04-25 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fileg.livejournal.com
your post really angered me. Overweight people are one of the last groups in this country that people feel *allowed* to discriminate against and torment, and in fact delight in doing so, no matter how hard those people are trying.

There in fact *is not* a calorie trade off in low carbing.Just a caarb one. I have been low carb since 2001, lost over 100 lbs.

If you dont think there is discrimination in that article think about their argument - you ate 12 slices of roast beef **so we're afraid we will run out for other customers**

what kind of restaurant is afraid of running out of food because of one couple no matter how much they ate? it is a way to ridicule people. and you are all helping, and enjoying it.

Date: 2004-04-25 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wtfbrain.livejournal.com
The running out of food is not the issue. The fact that they had 11 slices of roast beef while on a diet, for Chrisssake, and then had a problem with being told to back off the roast beef. It's not an all-you-can-eat restaurant, and I personally am surprised that the manager didn't say something earlier. Let's not be ridiculous, this isn't about them being overweight and being discriminated against. This is about them abusing the concept of a buffet, not to mention wildly misinterpreting the Atkins concept ("you can go there and just eat meat!") and gorging themselves because they have no willpower or understanding of the concept of moderation. They're on a diet, for crying out loud, you'd think that it might occur to them that, hey, maybe 11 slices of roast beef is enough.

Date: 2004-04-25 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Admittedly, the restaurant's argument is absolute crap and frankly makes them jerks as well. ("We're going to run out of meat"?! What kind of a argument is that? Have Joe the stock boy go to the supermarket and buy more if you're so afraid. Sheesh.) This is one of those cases where everybody involved makes my brain hurt.

I mean, twelve slices of roast beef? I have an uncle who eats at family get-togethers like he's storing food for hibernation who would go, "WTF?!"

Trust me, I'm not making fun of them for being overweight. I don't care how much they weigh. I'm making fun of them for being stupid and for being jerks. (Much like the scrawny chicks who thought the sugar-free candy was for the Atkins Diet. Weight means nothing. Lack of brain cells is another thing entirely.)

Date: 2004-04-25 06:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kutsuwamushi.livejournal.com
I think the restaurant was being reasonable -- twelve slices of roast beef is fucking excessive. They haven't taken that type of gluttony into account for their prices. And they can't simply restock, either -- the article mentions that they cook their own roast beef, and that it takes them over half a day. It sounds like they would have been ripping off their other customers if they simply restocked from a supermarket, since those customers would have been expecting their roast beef.

Date: 2004-04-26 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nute.livejournal.com
It is a way to ridicule people. and you are all helping, and enjoying it.

They wouldn't laugh if it wasn't funny.

Restaurants with buffets have a right to declare what's "excessive", and a fad diet doesn't grant a free exemption from that. It's pretty much a matter of etiquette: be considerate of other customers. Break that rule, and you're really no different than the woman who brings four unruly children in, or the crazy person who talks at length to her mashed potatoes.

Everyone's got a right to eat what they want - so long as it isn't taking advantage of anyone else.

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