WTF is up w/LiveJournal? *kicks it*

[apocalypsos]

Anyway, I've heard of principals acting like morons, but this is ridiculous. Dude, if you're going to expel the kid who throws a pie in your face at an event you signed up to participate in, save yourself the extra paperwork and don't sign up. Sheesh.

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[crantz.livejournal.com]

this reminds me of an incident before a out of province school trip we had once.

The teachers were going on that if you wanted to dye your hair or whatever, you should do it before you left so the teachers wouldn't get yelled at by the parents when you got back.

A friend of mine (unrelated to the trip) dyed his hair bright orange and green, I think the colours were.

The teachers, in answer, suspended him for two days and then spent another dragging him in front of the class and openly lecturing him for it.

His mother proceeded to call them all morons. These're the same people who tried to suspend me for wearing a light coat, mind.

Some teachers/principals have kumquats where their brains should be. Then you get the ones who insinuate that they want pencils stuck up their asses and you discover new levels of fear.

That is all.

Oh, a ps for my stories: We didn't have a dress code except for a minor note relating to shirts at that time. So no rules were actually broken by the students in either incident.

[muffytaj.livejournal.com]

O.o

That there's some stupid person.

[sekari.livejournal.com]

I think that's going to top the list for the biggest WTF? of the day. How do people that stupid get to be principal? Oh wait, I don't want to know.

[harmonyfb.livejournal.com]

She signed up to let students hit her in the face, and then got all pissy about it. I think the principal needs to be suspended without pay for being a dumbass.

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[paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com]

Apparently he didn't just throw the pie. He smashed it in her face and her head went back.

I still think this is so much nonsense, but here's the story with a bit more detail, even though I think it's still stupid. He's a teenage boy. He may not have realized how hard he did it, but still. He's a 3.4 GPA. I doubt he'd have intentionally done something to get himself arrested in an event that was supposed to be fun.

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[issendai.livejournal.com]

And another link.

Would everyone be more eager to declare the kid guilty if he was failing out of school? Having been an honors student myself, I can attest that kids with good grades know they get the benefit of the doubt when they break rules. That doesn't mean that I'm sure the kid did it intentionally--kids that age can be smart and dumb at the same time--but his GPA isn't a mitigating factor.

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[nute.livejournal.com]

but his GPA isn't a mitigating factor.

I can guarantee you it will be. As it should be, if you ask me.

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[issendai.livejournal.com]

I know it will be--but why should it be? Is a crime less wrong because the criminal is good at his day job? Can good writers get away with plagiarizing every once in a while because they're so good the rest of the time? Justice is supposed to be blind, not blinded.

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[nute.livejournal.com]

Apples and oranges. Nothing wrong with favoring the good students over the slackers. At least until the system gets fixed. There's a correlation to behavior and grades, and while not every 4.0 student is a role model, and not every failing student is a delinquent, the connection is often there.

If it was, say, a student who was barely passing - the odds would be a lot greater that they intended to hurt the principal out of spite and frustration, a desire to lash out. A student who's doing exceptional (seeing that a 3.4 these days is not only acceptable, but exceptional. Feh.) would have no such reason.

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[issendai.livejournal.com]

There's a correlation with officially recognized delinquency and grades, which is strengthened because when "good kids" get taken in for drug abuse, drunk driving, vandalism, and even rape (remember the Spur Posse? All but one were acquitted), they're far more likely to get let off the hook.

A correlation between dumbassery and grades? Not so strong. Grades measure intelligence, not wisdom. What the kid did didn't require a criminal mind or even a hooligan streak; it required him to embrace his inner moron for a minute. At 15, the inner moron is real close to the surface.

So: Why should what the kid did be any less wrong because he makes good grades?

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[paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com]

That wasn't the point I was trying to make. Kids who get good grades often [not always, but often] care enough about their future [and if not them, their parents are ever-mindful] are concerned enough with their futures to not intentionally do anything to hazard it.

In fairness, this could've been him rebelling against so tightly structured a life, but I don't think so, given what they said his reaction would be.

The school still has some responsibility here. They could have, as I have seen done at enumerable fairs, made it a pie-throwing booth, rather than made it an up-close-and-personal thing which allows for mishaps such as this to happen through bad planning and various people's levels of strength, comprehension, understanding, and notion of what "pie in the face" may or may not mean.

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[issendai.livejournal.com]

I agree with you that kids who get better grades are more likely to be careful of their chances for the future, but that doesn't mean that all of them are like that. It also doesn't ensure that they have a perfect understanding of what's not acceptable behavior.

From what little we've been told in the news, the kids were physically capable of touching the teachers by lunging, but that was "against the rules." I can see a kid hyped-up by the excitement and the chance to show off breaking the rules and lunging, treating the fun-fair game exactly like a video game that he'd just found a cheat in. In that kind of situation, it's easy to forget that the target's a feeling human being.

(Insert here mandatory disclaimer about video games not being the coagulated milk of the bride of Satan. This kind of thing happens in gym-class dodgeball, too.)