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[apocalypsos]

Spotted on IMDb ...

Religious conservatives and family-values groups are planning to wage a battle against Fox Searchlight's Kinsey, about the pioneering sex researcher, when the movie opens in limited release on Friday. In a statement on Wednesday, Robert Knight of Concerned Women for America charged that the movie "lionized" a man whose "proper place is with Nazi Dr. Josef Mengele or your average Hollywood horror flick mad scientist." Knight went on to assert that Kinsey "was the godfather of the homosexual activist movement, the campaign to mainstream pornography, and even the campaign to strike down abortion laws." The youth group Generation Life, composed of "virgins and renewed virgins," announced that it would picket theaters showing the film. And the conservative WorldNetDaily.com has taken aim at the movie in the current issue of its monthly magazine Whistleblower, in which it charges that Kinsey transformed America "in five decades from the Leave It to Beaver innocence of the 1950s to today's wanton, 'anything-goes' sexual anarchy." (EDIT: I believe I should add here that with a dirty enough mind and a slight shift in punctuation, there is no real difference between leave-it-to-beaver innocence and "anything goes" sexual anarchy". I'm just sayin'. ANOTHER EDIT: Okay, not much of a difference. ;))

And, you know, Finding Neverland is coming out this weekend and I'm going to go if I hit a word quota for NaNoWriMo that I'm happy with, but I'm horribly tempted to go see Kinsey if it means annoying protesting religious conservatives. And maybe they could question my sex life. That could be amusing. *evil cackle*

And what the hell is "renewed virgin" supposed to mean, anyway? (Note: That was a rhetorical question. I know what stupid excuses they'd give for being "renewed" virgins. Nobody needs to give me an explanation of the term, but thanks anyway.) I'd just like to get into an argument with a really nutty protester who's not half as virginal as I am. ;)

EDIT: Shot shows promise as male contraceptive -- Oh, and I'm sure that since guys can't get pregnant, that shot'll get passed out like it's friggin' candy. *glares*

HEY, I FOUND ANOTHER EDIT UNDER THE COUCH CUSHIONS!: There are protestors out by the street, and I have no idea who they are or what they're protesting or, for that matter, which building they're protesting. The curiosity, it kills me dead. *resists the urge to leave work to go out and ask, since New Bossman already said no*

Comments

[aberrantangels]

I'm surprised you didn't say something about

Robert Knight of Concerned Women for America

I mean, seriously, what the technicolor frell is up with that? "Robert" doesn't sound like a woman's name to me, concerned or otherwise, and somebody ought to ask him about that shit.

[tinylegacies.livejournal.com]

THANK you!

That was my very first thought when I read that!

"renewed virgins"

[casapazzo.livejournal.com]

Seriously, dude. Like, who do they think they're kidding?

I'm not all that interested in Kinsey, but I was sort of considering seing it b/c it's Liam...now I may just have to make sure I do.

[silverhill.livejournal.com]

a man whose "proper place is with Nazi Dr. Josef Mengele

*jaw hits floor*

Because when it comes to evil, telling people sex is OK is right up there with torturing Jews.

I'd say I fear for humanity, but someone that delusional can't be human.

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

I read up on Mengele when I was studying what he used to do to the twin children that came in on the trains. Kinsey has a loooooooooooooong way to go in the evil department to even be mentioned in the same breath as Mengele. *gags*

[gypsyjr.livejournal.com]

Your icon is oh-so-appropriate.

[loopychew.livejournal.com]

Godwin's Law!

[glitter-ninja.livejournal.com]

Robert Knight doesn't sound like your typical member of "Concerned Women for America", what with not being a woman and all. Maybe they're so deeply entrenched in this thing that they need a man to do all their leading and talking for them.

OK, now I'm really scared.

[penknife.livejournal.com]

Robert Knight of Concerned Women for America charged that the movie "lionized" a man whose "proper place is with Nazi Dr. Josef Mengele or your average Hollywood horror flick mad scientist."

Whoever brings up the Nazis first loses, right?

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

Uh-huh. Godwin's, isn't it?

[http://users.livejournal.com/_redpanda_/]

was the godfather of the homosexual activist movement, the campaign to mainstream pornography, and even the campaign to strike down abortion laws

Uh. And in today's Brave New BizarroAmerika, these are BAD things? Sheesh...

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

Well, remember, sex is a bad thing, which you can tell because if you do it right, it ends in babies and/or orgasms.

[norabombay.livejournal.com]

Now I may have to go see Kinsey. Which honestly looks to be a boring movie.

Damnit.

[beck-liz.livejournal.com]

If you're interested in the review of a fan who's already seen it, look here. Beware, spoilers ahoy!

[dawning-star.livejournal.com]

a man whose "proper place is with Nazi Dr. Josef Mengele

*blinks*

Sex is now synonymous with the Holocaust? Jesus H. Christ on a fucking pogo-stick, what reality is this asshole from?

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

A reality where he doesn't get laid. Or won't, after that remark.

[sabra-n.livejournal.com]

Oh, gee, so nice to see the "religious conservatives" comparing Kinsey with Mengele. How many of those religions are non-Gentile, I wonder? They're not just making Kinsey worse than he was, they're diminishing the evil that Mengele perpetrated. But I doubt I need to tell anyone here that.

I love how he says Kinsey caused all those changes in sexual attitudes from the Eden we had in the 50s, when from my understanding, all he did was document what was already there.

Yes, people were gay in the 50's, too, my "religious conservative" friends. And for many, many years before that.

I hate people sometimes.

-blue

[lots42.livejournal.com]

This is the first I've heard of Kinsey.

Now I want to see more.

Anyone accused of causing so much sex can't be that bad.

[anne-jumps.livejournal.com]

Check out this take:
http://mousewords.blogspot.com/2004/11/conservative-groups-denounce-kinsey.html

[tesria.livejournal.com]

"The very idea that godly wives and mothers have sexual desires like men is an insult to womanhood everywhere."

Is it just me that finds the idea that we don't have sexual desires more insulting to my womanhood?

[adjectivegirl.livejournal.com]

Yeah, today I'm all out of tolerance. Who the fuck do these fucking fucks think they are, comparing the sexual "revolution" (which is rifuckingdiculous, because Kinsey discovered people were already pretty randy in the motherfreakin' 50s) to the Holocaust?

They can officially suck my left one.

[foresthouse.livejournal.com]

Whee! Thanks for posting this, or I would never have known about it I bet. (you got a lovely shoutout in my journal b/c of it).
Indiana U is my alma mater, and the Kinsey Institute is old news there. We are rather proud of it and surprised that more people don't know more about it. I am definitely going to see it as soon as I figure out where it's at. (You'd think in DC it would be easy to find...maybe Bush's conservative minions aren't allowing it in the theaters...?)

[sabra-n.livejournal.com]

It's on limited release for now, I think. No sinister plots here. :)

-blue

[astaria51.livejournal.com]

I've fucking overused this icon today. MENGELE??? WTF???

Dammit, there's no WAY that movie's showing around here...

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

I've finally figured out where the hell they're getting that connection. More sex=more abortions=baby Holocaust=OMG Kinsey is the Anti-Christ!1!!1

You know, there's jumping to conclusions, and then there's playing fucking leapfrog with them.

[minisinoo.livejournal.com]

Er, probably a dumb question, but what the hell is a "renewed virgin"? It's not a choice, it's a biological reality. You are or you aren't, although I'll grant that being a virgin does not equal (to my mind) not having had sex, given the wealth of things one can do and still claim technical virginity. (g)

[trishalynn.livejournal.com]

I'm not a member and frankly I don't ever want to be one, but I think a "renewed virgin" is one who's renounced his/her evil fornicating ways, has been "purified" and is now as clean and fresh as the driven snow, all the more better to be presented to a loving husband to defile on their wedding night. ^_^

[acetal.livejournal.com]

Question. If a guy said, "Trust me, I've had my shot," would you trust them? Still, potentially useful for further reducing the odds.

Heh. In high school for sex ed. they had us roll dice to show the odds of pregnancy from unprotected sex. I kept rolling sixes. It got to the point where people were gathering around. Usually I have terrible luck, but, well, I guess what's worse than `accidentally' getting someone pregnant is getting a whole lot of people pregnant concurrently.

I particularly like this part: `most of which regained their fertility when the treatments were stopped'.

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

I've watched too many episodes of Maury Povich to trust any guy who told me he'd had his shot.

[seferin.livejournal.com]

Women should be equal to men.
I am a man, and would vote for equal rights and medicine coverage for women.
The majority of congress is male.
Am I unique in this belief, or is congress full of sexists?
Is it possible for a not sexist man to be elected?

[fyrdrakken]

I need to go hunting on Google to refresh my memory on the article I read months ago on the doc in India who's gotten male birth control to the point of clinical trials. IIRC, his shot is a single shot that lasts for 10 years and yet can be reversed with another shot if the guy in question decides it's family time and doesn't want to wait out the end of the decade. The reason it's being worked on and getting ready to be sold in India is they have a major overpopulation issue and female birth control is pricey. The reason given in the article it's not even being mentioned in the US, let alone picked up a pharmaceutical company for testing and marketing here, is that they can make a lot more money on giving women daily pills or tri-monthly Depo-Provera shots. (Or there's Norplant, which lasts five years but costs a fair bit and cause cause keloid formation at the implant site or rejection issues.) It's not that men wouldn't be interested in A) not trusting their wives or girlfriends to remember their pills (or not trap them into a marriage or child support) and B) taking the birth control job out of their SO's hands if they have one of those unlucky wives/girlfriends who absolutely cannot deal with the side effects of hormonal birth control -- it's that there's not enough money in it.

[cyprinella]

it's that there's not enough money in it.

That's exactly the reason that there's been the wave of widely marketed drugs for incredibly general symptoms - like generalized anxiety disorder type stuff - instead of serious, focused research into disease cures. Not enough of a return for the investment. You can convince almost anyone that they need drugs for nervousness but [thankfully] you can't convince somene that they have a life threatening illness.