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[apocalypsos]

Cops: Teens ended pregnancy with a baseball bat -- Remember, kids, legal and safe abortions are bad. That's why, if you do end up a pregnant teen, you should have your boyfriend whack you in the stomach with a baseball bat.

Meanwhile, House Republicans want to change party rules to ensure that DeLay retains his post if a Texas grand jury indicts him as it did with three of his political associates. See, kids? You can never be too big a hypocrite. :)

Also, should Canada indict Bush and charge him with war crimes? On one hand, I loathe him enough to root for the Canadians to do it. On the other hand, he is our President, like it or not, and if they indict him for war crimes, that reflects well on us ... or, you know, not.

EDIT: The United States laid down the gauntlet to Europe Wednesday by saying the responsibility for trimming the U.S. current account deficit cannot rest on the U.S. alone and other countries must help by boosting demand. -- "I screwed up, so you have to help me." *eye roll*

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[phillyexpat.livejournal.com]

Re baseball bat story: WOW. That's terrible.

Tom DeLay should be in prison.

[pescivendolo.livejournal.com]

He's already reflecting well enough on us. I say slap the cuffs on him. Somebody's got to hold him accountable.

[apocalypsos.livejournal.com]

It'd certainly be a wakeup call for him. Well, hopefully.

[tinylegacies.livejournal.com]

re: the baseball bat story - that is just disgusting. It's people like that who give the anti-abortionists semi-valid arguments.

re: the DeLay story - why would the people want a legislator to represent them from prison??? The best line in the article was that "the Republican party does not care if its leaders are ethical" - so very true.

re: the Canada story - it would be very interesting to see how that would all play out.

[ceejayoz.livejournal.com]

It's people like that who give the anti-abortionists semi-valid arguments.

I'd say exactly the opposite.

If abortion were illegal, that kind of thing would become far more common as legal, safe abortions would be unavailable.

re: the DeLay story - why would the people want a legislator to represent them from prison???

He'd definitely lose his post if convicted (nothing can prevent that), but current House Republican rules state that you must (temporarially) step down if charged with a crime that has a sentence of two years in prison or more.

[stevie-jane.livejournal.com]

The United States laid down the gauntlet to Europe Wednesday by saying the responsibility for trimming the U.S. current account deficit cannot rest on the U.S. alone and other countries must help by boosting demand.

Europe says: FUCK OFF.

[suaine.livejournal.com]

The United States laid down the gauntlet to Europe Wednesday by saying the responsibility for trimming the U.S. current account deficit cannot rest on the U.S. alone and other countries must help by boosting demand.

ahhhahahahahahaa.... sorry, that just had to be said.

(From the point of view of a German who sees the German economy crumble under our own problems. Boosting demand. Ahahahaa.... *sighs*)

[paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com]

The baseball bat story is TRAGIC.

It's people like the rabid [Christian] pro-lifers who make children so afraid to go to their parents when they get pregnant. They can't afford the abortion on their own. So they feel trapped with no recourse.

The entire 'It's up to the world to clean up our messes' mentality

[ficangel.livejournal.com]

I want to cry.

[tinylegacies.livejournal.com]

I think the argument would be that even though it is legal - people are still doing these heinous things - so what is the difference.

Personally I think it's absolutely criminal what those teenagers did.

[rowanberries.livejournal.com]

Should Canada indict Bush?

OH GOD YES PLEASE NOW.

Go on Canada. You know you want to. :)

And, I just read said article, and this: Bush was furious last year when Belgians launched a war crimes suit in their country against him — so furious that Belgium not only backed down under U.S. threats but changed its law to prevent further recurrences.

What?! Of course he was fucking furious! But you don't decide not to prosecute a fucking murderer because he fucking yells at you! Nor do you add a qualifier to the law that says 'only not if it's George. W. fucking Bush, because he says so and we're scared of the bully.' *Sigh*

And the other ones. Oh God. We need to make LJ physical and set up our own state on an island somewhere. Y'know, one with logic and sanity. Who's coming?

[tinylegacies.livejournal.com]

I completely agree but I think at 16 you have to know there are better options.

[paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com]

Knowing it rationally is one thing.

Having such unmitigated terror of reaction from one's parents that you can't consider those better options as viable is another.

I don't know that if I'd been fool enough to get pregnant in high school whether I'd have tried to hide the pregnancy like other kids my age, whether I'd have begged from friends for money for an abortion, or prayed my natural clumsiness got me a miscarriage.

But I surely would NOT have gone to my parents because I would've been terrified of the repercussions. TERRIFIED.

My father's reaction to anything he didn't like me doing [from wearing the wrong expression on my face on up] was to react with hand, belt, or whatever was within reach.

So I can relate very well with kids being too afraid of their parents to try to take other methods of dealing with a problem, even when those methods are the more sensible and healthy and safe ones.

[paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com]

Not everybody on LJ is logical and sane.

We need to be a little more selective.

[anne-jumps.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I'm sure Europe is really excited about helping with this plan.

[rowanberries.livejournal.com]

We sure beat several governments I could mention in the sanity stakes. But that's true, we need a screening process. Like a Mary-Sue litmus test, only one that works.

[snellios.livejournal.com]

If the defecit gets worse then it's only gonna have a negative effect on Europe, so we should take it upon ourselves to do somnething to help, just for our own sake.

[snellios.livejournal.com]

Can anyone explain what charges are going to be bought against the baby aborting teens?

[pescivendolo.livejournal.com]

I was wondering about that myself. Miscarriage? Consentual physical abuse? Statutory rape? Burying a fetus in a backyard?

[nute.livejournal.com]

But you don't decide not to prosecute a fucking murderer because he fucking yells at you!

Technically, Bush can't be guilty of murder under the letter of the law. That's why there's a special set of crimes to cover people in power who are supposed to take the fall for actions of the military.

Despite common conception, being in charge of a group of people who go out and murder and doing it oneself are totally and radically different things. Unless someone has direct control over people under their command (something the President can NOT have over the military, despite whatever ceremonial titles like Commander-in-Chief are bestowed by tradition alone) and are there giving the individual order directly, the responsibility begins and ends with the people committing the act.

If atrocities are committed by soldiers, then the soldiers alone are responsible. It is the responsibility of every soldier to REFUSE an unlawful order, and as we saw in Abu Ghraib, many soldiers failed in that responsibility.

While Bush may be guilty of certain interpretations of war crimes, the common crime of murder is one which cannot be pinned on him.

[snellios.livejournal.com]

And I mean, if it was still so undeveloped that they couldn't tell the sex, then that rules out manslaughter charges like suggested.

FUCKING PRO LIFE RETARDS.

If she wants to be hit in the fucking stomach, fucking let her. I've seen worse bdsm. Hell, I've felt better bdsm.

[nute.livejournal.com]

Possibly unlicensed practice of medicine, if the miscarriage is determined to be intentional. If not, it at least falls under the definition of battery and possibly mayhem, both of which the state can choose to prosecute regardless of the victim's intent, due to the perpetrator possibly being a threat to the general populace.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_redpanda_/]

Look, TP! Locusts!

[fyrdrakken]

Legal, maybe -- obtainable, no. A coworker at my last job found out she was pregnant the week she graduated high school. She wanted to get an abortion but couldn't get to the clinic past the protesters. And many states have a law that teenagers seeking an abortion must at least prove parental notification, if not actually obtaining consent.

[snellios.livejournal.com]

You think the CPS-equivalent would really want to bother and treat the guy like a common violent attacker? I mean, sometimes (in the UK) they don't even bother with euthanasia charges when it is clear, and even admitted.

Unlicensed practice of medicine lolololol.