Lost: "Hearts and Minds"
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apocalypsosWOOHOO! INCEST! But not really, so it's okay, but technically it's still -- INCEST SEX!
Okay, so anyway, I'll narrow this down by character again.
Boone -- As I said in the cut, Boone, you ignorant slut. Thank you for nailing your very pretty sister simply for the mental images I now have to play with. I'm telling you, I wish I had a real, honest-to-goodness bunk right now so I could be in it. Not-quite-incest porn with very, very pretty fictional characters I like makes a happy troll. :)
And you know, I have reason to be mad at Boone, because I know she's a super King Kamehameha bee-atch, but, "I felt relieved"?! *smacks Boone upside the head* Then again, I understand where he's coming from, so I let it slide. But the part that bugs me is when he followed Locke, who did a truly creepy thing to him. Then again, I suppose it's easy to warp the hell out of a guy who's more beauty than brains. Boone Carlyle ... hee. That's such a romance-novel name.
Shannon -- I love Shannon, I do. I'll be the first to admit, though, that I falter between loving her and loving to hate her. I was firmly on the loving-to-hate-her fence for the entire episode, but let's establish that this was while I was getting the porn I wanted, so I can deal. :) As for the backstory between the two of them, I love the fact that on some level, Boone's always been trying to do the big-brother thing and Shannon's just been an absolute punk about the whole thing.
Sawyer -- Look, there he is in the flashback! Aaaaand there he goes. *snerk* They need to do one of those with everybody, because that was just too amusing, seeing the two of them cross paths like that.
Jack -- I'm sorry, but when the hell did Jack stop being pissed at Kate for last episode? Oh, bollocks, never mind. It's not like I don't ignore the both of them when they come on screen anyway.
Kate -- Oh, how I wish Sun hadn't talked to her. Because she's going to expect conversations and just ... just no. Stop talking to Sun! She's too cool to hang out with you! Speaking of which ...
Sun -- How awesome is it not only that Sun has a grove and a garden going on, but that she did it up to a certain point without anyone helping, without asking for help, and without even telling? I adore her, and when she said she loved Jin, I just melted. In the absence of Claire, she's filling my "cute" quotient. Aaaand speaking of Claire ...
Charlie -- Okay, so he was only in one scene (and when he showed up, I yelped "Oh, thank GOD"), but that preview for next week? He beats up Sawyer for Claire's journal! YAY! *flails* Oh, I'm so going to need to icon that.
Jin -- Damn. He's just ... just ... wow. Him and Hurley together are just awesome. All you've got to go on with Jin is just facial expressions and hand movements, and he and Hurley were like a freakin' comedy team.
Hurley -- "Just pee on it, man!" BWAH. And when Jin handed him that fish, his eyes welled up. Awwwww. (And it's official. Jorge gets most of the good lines. :))
Sayid -- Okay, who's got the list of things Sayid has had sexual chemistry with? All right, at the bottom, add "Boone", "Jack", "Locke" (in a rather frightening turn), "a map", "a bowl of water", "a pair of Shannon's shoes" and "magnetic north". Got it? Good. Remember, we officially finish the list when "the kitchen sink" ends up at the bottom. (Also, whoever recs me a good Boone/Sayid fic has first dibs on my firstborn child. Mmmm.)
Michael -- Whatever's in that wooden box? I swear, this show drives me nuts in a happy way, because just when it gives me the resolution to one secret, it gives me another to soak in. And he was so happy to see it, too. Not to mention the look he gave Walt. *pets Michael* And the preview just made me hope to God he steps up to the plate with the whole father thing and doesn't get all his Good Father points taken away.
Walt -- As per the preview, OMG WALT NOT ANOTHER POLAR BEAR YOU'RE CREEPY BUT FOR FUCK'S SAKE DON'T GET EATEN! Ahem.
Locke -- Riiiiiight.
Okay, look. Man's either out of his fucking mind, or he's an entirely new level of brilliant. Either way, people would have to be clinically insane to follow him. So of course, they all do. Go figure. (I mean, I know the guy knows how to hunt and has four hundred knives, but for crying out loud, doesn't anybody who has to interact with him on a day-to-day basis notice he's taking this zen Davy Crockett thing to frightening new levels? Sheesh.)
So far, he's shown every indication of being one of the terrifying cult leaders who ends up convincing a bunch of people to drink the Kool-Aid before swallowing the barrel of a .45. He's persuasive. He's calm. He gives off this knowledgable aura that just makes people want to trail after him like lost puppies. And look who he's used it on so far. The prime examples are Charlie and Boone, both of whom when they were at their most weak-minded. It's getting to the point where Locke's gone beyond helping them and moved into scarier territory.
Next week: GYAH. Why the fuck do people keep hiding in that twiggy tree? It doesn't seem to be giving a hell of a lot of protection. (Although it makes you wonder, though, why Boone would hallucinate hiding in that tree a week before Walt apparently actually does so in real life.)
Okay, so anyway, I'll narrow this down by character again.
Boone -- As I said in the cut, Boone, you ignorant slut. Thank you for nailing your very pretty sister simply for the mental images I now have to play with. I'm telling you, I wish I had a real, honest-to-goodness bunk right now so I could be in it. Not-quite-incest porn with very, very pretty fictional characters I like makes a happy troll. :)
And you know, I have reason to be mad at Boone, because I know she's a super King Kamehameha bee-atch, but, "I felt relieved"?! *smacks Boone upside the head* Then again, I understand where he's coming from, so I let it slide. But the part that bugs me is when he followed Locke, who did a truly creepy thing to him. Then again, I suppose it's easy to warp the hell out of a guy who's more beauty than brains. Boone Carlyle ... hee. That's such a romance-novel name.
Shannon -- I love Shannon, I do. I'll be the first to admit, though, that I falter between loving her and loving to hate her. I was firmly on the loving-to-hate-her fence for the entire episode, but let's establish that this was while I was getting the porn I wanted, so I can deal. :) As for the backstory between the two of them, I love the fact that on some level, Boone's always been trying to do the big-brother thing and Shannon's just been an absolute punk about the whole thing.
Sawyer -- Look, there he is in the flashback! Aaaaand there he goes. *snerk* They need to do one of those with everybody, because that was just too amusing, seeing the two of them cross paths like that.
Jack -- I'm sorry, but when the hell did Jack stop being pissed at Kate for last episode? Oh, bollocks, never mind. It's not like I don't ignore the both of them when they come on screen anyway.
Kate -- Oh, how I wish Sun hadn't talked to her. Because she's going to expect conversations and just ... just no. Stop talking to Sun! She's too cool to hang out with you! Speaking of which ...
Sun -- How awesome is it not only that Sun has a grove and a garden going on, but that she did it up to a certain point without anyone helping, without asking for help, and without even telling? I adore her, and when she said she loved Jin, I just melted. In the absence of Claire, she's filling my "cute" quotient. Aaaand speaking of Claire ...
Charlie -- Okay, so he was only in one scene (and when he showed up, I yelped "Oh, thank GOD"), but that preview for next week? He beats up Sawyer for Claire's journal! YAY! *flails* Oh, I'm so going to need to icon that.
Jin -- Damn. He's just ... just ... wow. Him and Hurley together are just awesome. All you've got to go on with Jin is just facial expressions and hand movements, and he and Hurley were like a freakin' comedy team.
Hurley -- "Just pee on it, man!" BWAH. And when Jin handed him that fish, his eyes welled up. Awwwww. (And it's official. Jorge gets most of the good lines. :))
Sayid -- Okay, who's got the list of things Sayid has had sexual chemistry with? All right, at the bottom, add "Boone", "Jack", "Locke" (in a rather frightening turn), "a map", "a bowl of water", "a pair of Shannon's shoes" and "magnetic north". Got it? Good. Remember, we officially finish the list when "the kitchen sink" ends up at the bottom. (Also, whoever recs me a good Boone/Sayid fic has first dibs on my firstborn child. Mmmm.)
Michael -- Whatever's in that wooden box? I swear, this show drives me nuts in a happy way, because just when it gives me the resolution to one secret, it gives me another to soak in. And he was so happy to see it, too. Not to mention the look he gave Walt. *pets Michael* And the preview just made me hope to God he steps up to the plate with the whole father thing and doesn't get all his Good Father points taken away.
Walt -- As per the preview, OMG WALT NOT ANOTHER POLAR BEAR YOU'RE CREEPY BUT FOR FUCK'S SAKE DON'T GET EATEN! Ahem.
Locke -- Riiiiiight.
Okay, look. Man's either out of his fucking mind, or he's an entirely new level of brilliant. Either way, people would have to be clinically insane to follow him. So of course, they all do. Go figure. (I mean, I know the guy knows how to hunt and has four hundred knives, but for crying out loud, doesn't anybody who has to interact with him on a day-to-day basis notice he's taking this zen Davy Crockett thing to frightening new levels? Sheesh.)
So far, he's shown every indication of being one of the terrifying cult leaders who ends up convincing a bunch of people to drink the Kool-Aid before swallowing the barrel of a .45. He's persuasive. He's calm. He gives off this knowledgable aura that just makes people want to trail after him like lost puppies. And look who he's used it on so far. The prime examples are Charlie and Boone, both of whom when they were at their most weak-minded. It's getting to the point where Locke's gone beyond helping them and moved into scarier territory.
Next week: GYAH. Why the fuck do people keep hiding in that twiggy tree? It doesn't seem to be giving a hell of a lot of protection. (Although it makes you wonder, though, why Boone would hallucinate hiding in that tree a week before Walt apparently actually does so in real life.)
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OMGWTFSOUTHPARK!
Date: 2005-01-13 04:43 am (UTC)Ok. You're my sooper sekkrit girlfriend for using that phrase.
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Date: 2005-01-16 03:28 am (UTC)Er, sorry 'bout that.....he's just too yummy....
I'm dying to know what he did to end up in that jailhouse....
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Date: 2005-01-13 08:53 am (UTC)As much as Shannon needs a kick in her ass, I do have to side with Locke (channelling George Carlin, apparently) in thinking that Boone needed to learn some SELF RELIANCE.
Also, Jin + Hurley = OMG MORE NOW PLEASE. They made me like Jin again, yay! And I could not possibly love Sun more. Seriously.
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Date: 2005-01-13 02:56 pm (UTC)And I don't think that Boone needed to learn self-reliance. After all, he was COO of a large business and (aside from Shannon-issues) has taken care of himself fairly well. Boone needed to sever his connection (romantic love) to Shannon before he was "fit" to follow Locke.
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Date: 2005-01-13 09:44 pm (UTC)What you said, re: Boone and Shannon: bingo. They had this unhealthy co-dependence thing going, what with the "YOU'RE A USELESS WHORE" and "I TAKE YOUR MONEY OH WAIT I LURVS YOU OMG" thing going on. Boone needed to realize that she is, as was so aptly stated, a Super King Kamehameha bee-yatch, and that he was better off without her dragging him down to the Xander Harris Buttmonkey level of existance every time he offered her a Snickers bar.
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Date: 2005-01-13 10:12 am (UTC)If Walt goes, I'll probably cry. He's the one little kid I actually kind of like. Michael needs to save his ass so I can like him more.
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Date: 2005-01-13 10:40 am (UTC)"Sawyer -- Look, there he is in the flashback! Aaaaand there he goes. *snerk* They need to do one of those with everybody, because that was just too amusing, seeing the two of them cross paths like that." There's actually been quite a number of those. I've seen Sawyer in several, Jack and Sun/Jin...
Speaking of Jin, I've been a fan of Daniel Dae Kim since '98 or so, and every time I see him anywhere, he gives me a big grin. He is just rocking all over the place on this though, for exactly the reasons you give. He's not even speaking English, and can just convey SO much.
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Date: 2005-01-13 11:49 am (UTC)Also, whoever recs me a good Boone/Sayid fic has first dibs on my firstborn child.
I know have urge to write this...and damn it, I don't usually write guy slash... but Sayid! That man just radiates... ahem..
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Date: 2005-01-13 01:31 pm (UTC)And "magnetic north"? Heee. Also, true. But heeee, nonetheless.
I wonder if hallucinogens work better than, say, aspirin for helping ease someone off heroin. (And was I the only one thinking "Friggin aspirin? For heroin withdrawal? And you expect Charlie to thank you?") 'Cause I'm thinking Charlie might be interested in whatever Locke put on Boone's head. Anyway, forget following Locke -- if someone tied me up and drugged me in a forest with people-eating polar bears I'm thinking I'd be telling everybody on the whole island about it. Crazy man with a knife thing -- yeah, that's who we want to rely on in a crisis. I don't care how fabulous his woodsy skills are.
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Date: 2005-01-14 12:20 am (UTC)That was a joke. You can tell 'cause Charlie didn't smack him. ;)
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Date: 2005-01-13 03:00 pm (UTC)After last week's Shannon!snark about "is he your new boyfriend", my family immediately decided that A) yes, Locke and Boone are doin' it, and B) Boone's the bottom. He's just too much of a pretty-boy follower, despite his occasional "I OWN A DODGE STRATUS!" moments.
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Date: 2005-01-13 03:26 pm (UTC)Your wife is hot."
Hurley is my hunkahunka love.
"magnetic north." I fell on the floor at that. Because it's so true!
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Date: 2005-01-13 05:29 pm (UTC)Also, I think the way he just forgave Locke for the whole bit had a lot to do with A) the bonding they've been doing, which established trust on his part, and B) the shock and relief of finding that Shannon was still alive. Being tied up -- with a knife left within reach for freeing oneself, note -- and drugged for a vision quest (from which he got a really useful insight, by being relieved at Shannon's "death" and realizing from it presumably that she's dragging him down and they're both better off with some apart time) is a hell of a lot easier to forgive when compared to "tied up and having one's sister abducted and tied up for an adventure that wound up killing her." The thing he was most upset about turned out not to be true, so he kind of forgot the other stuff that remained valid cause for anger. (I still like Locke and am holding out hope that Rousseau was all wrong about the island force and that it's really all right, but that's just because I agree with everything Locke's been doing so far because it really has all seemed to work out for people's own good.)
Also delighted by Sawyer's cameo in the flashback, and by the Jin/Hurley thing. I've been wondering when we get Jin's flashback ep, since I'd already started vaguely wondering if he understood English and had been keeping it a secret, presumably because of what he does for his father-in-law and maybe having something to do with why they were in Sydney.
The box thing -- at first I thought it was something of Walt's and that's why he closed it quick when Walt showed up, but he didn't hide it and then the bit with Hurley confirmed it was his luggage and so now I figure it's keepsakes of Walt as a little kid and/or of his late ex. Either she was still sending him updates on Walt after they split and that's where he kept the letters and photos, or he was keeping Walt's baby pictures and maybe stuff from his ex in there, I'm guessing. Hence the, "I know a lot about you," conversation when Walt didn't believe he even knew his birthday. (Which come to think of it indicates Michael and his ex split before Walt was born and he knew it but didn't realize Michael was still getting mail from her -- or had hired a private eye to check up on them, as the case may be.)
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Date: 2005-01-13 05:49 pm (UTC)I don't doubt for a minute that Jin knows English, and I think Sun knows damn well he does. Of course, I still don't know why she hasn't said anything, but whatever. (It would make sense going back to when she asked Jin when someone would tell them what to do. If she didn't know English, then why would she ask Jin as if he'd understand them if they asked?)
As for Walt's birthday, the most simple explanation I could come up with is that he noticed it when he needed Walt's passport for the plane info. Then again, I'm thinking Walt's mother took him away after she gave birth, so Michael was there for it. But I like thinking about goofy delivery-room Michael. :)
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Date: 2005-01-13 10:19 pm (UTC)Walt's birthday is indeed a very minor detail easily learned even if Michael missed his birth and wasn't getting updates from his ex -- but the way he said, "I know a lot of things about you," suggested to me that he does indeed know more about Walt.
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Date: 2005-01-13 10:21 pm (UTC)Jin's shown that he wants to be her provider, protector, and what all else. At risk of sounding really, really cheesey, he sold his soul in order to be able to be with her and take care of her, and finding out that she could suddenly provide for herself and for him (assuming he doesn't speak English) would probably devastate him. So, letting him continue to operate under the belief that she's reasonably helpless on the island is her way of not punching him in the balls. :>
I should do some reading on Korean culture. Betcha fifty American buckaroonies that'd explain it somehow.
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Date: 2005-01-13 07:09 pm (UTC)I'm still in the "evil" camp with Locke. 'Cause clubbing someone over the head, painting them with hallucinagenic goo, and then staking them out in the jungle that eats people? Seems slightly more counterproductive to me than, "Dude, your taste in women sucks. Go flirt with Kate, she seems to take it in stride."
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Date: 2005-01-13 08:40 pm (UTC)Ugh, can't their scenes just disappear? Forever?
Hurley -- "Just pee on it, man!" BWAH. And when Jin handed him that fish, his eyes welled up. Awwwww. (And it's official. Jorge gets most of the good lines. :))
And when he was reaching for Jin's willy... bwahahahaha! I need am all-Hurley episode to make up for all the Kate/Jack focus.
I went all woobie inside with the Michael nano-second scene. Why is it the shortest scenes in each episode tend to be the best?
CTV didn't show us a preview! Boo! Is it Walt-centric?
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Date: 2005-01-13 08:46 pm (UTC)But then again, I've been wrong about all the other character deaths so far--I was convinced Charlie was going to stay dead when Ethan strung him up, and then I thought (hoped, but that's because she drives me crazy) Shannon was dead for good this episode. So, uh, I'm 0 for 2.
-Callisto
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Date: 2005-01-18 04:03 am (UTC)Am I the only person who continues to get that feeling that Jin actually does speak English, but nobody knows it? Could be an interesting turnaround.