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Call me crazy, but I'm really starting to wonder if Boone isn't a dodge.

Will I be the least bit surprised if Boone dies? No, of course not. The man fell in a plane, for crying out loud. If he does die tonight, it wouldn't come as a shock.

But that's the thing. It wouldn't come as much of a shock, which is the sort of thing we've come to expect from the show. We've come to expect that something's just going to come out of left field at all times. There's all these spoilers that have come out for the last few weeks hinting that Boone will die, Josh Holloway's hints in that one interview back it up, and when giving clues about who dies in other venues, all signs have pointed to Boone. But would any of us really be shocked, considering the way this show works, if Jack was too busy trying to keep Boone alive in the caves, to save someone else from dying elsewhere?

In the past few weeks, it's become almost predictable that Boone is going to be the one who bites it. But they've done a damn fine job of keeping tonight's episode under lock and key, to the point where, has anybody even seen any promo photos for this episode? Not that I know of. (And if you have been hiding them from me ... why, exactly? I'm such a spoiler whore. I need, I need. ;)) Something about Boone dying tonight, while expected, just doesn't feel right to me.

Not only that, but after the radio transmission in last week's episode, I've been thinking. The writers have verified that it was, "No, we're the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815." But to my ears (and to a good chunk of other fans), it sounded like it could have been Boone's voice. My question is, if it is Boone, which Boone is it?

If there were other clues to be had in the episode, a good one might be Sawyer reading "A Wrinkle in Time". Is it possible that part of the island's mystery involves a wrinkle in time, of sorts? Of course. I mean, seriously, how many possibilities have they ruled out? Not many. Assuming that the voice on the end was Boone, and that it wasn't some AU Boone or somebody mocked up to sound like Boone, then it would have to be this Boone. And we already know he didn't answer the transmission already. So if he didn't answer it in the past, then he has to answer it in the future. And, well, he'd have to be alive for that, wouldn't he? ;)

The-wrinkle-in-time(-and-possibly-space) theory also screws with other mysteries from the island, if you think about it. The hatch in the jungle floor (which could come from a future time for all we know). Where the hell the Nigerian drug plane may have come from. The mystery of where Ethan came from (did he come from the future and therefore know something about these people's futures that they don't?). What happened to Danielle's science team, and Alex in particular. Jive that theory along with those mysteries, and things could get reeeeeeeeally interesting.

Of course, now that I've said it out loud, Boone'll probably just get bumped off at the half-hour mark and screw up the whole thing. But still. :)

Date: 2005-04-06 01:30 pm (UTC)
valerie: (lost - jack change your mind)
From: [personal profile] valerie
I'm thinking the whole deal with Boone could be a double-feint on us speculators and spoiler whores. Everywhere I read, I'm seeing things along the lines of "There's no way Boone will die. J.J. wouldn't have it be that obvious." But... he could be twisting us into thinking it'll be someone else, and then knock Boone off to fuck with our heads.

Then again, I've also heard theories of Michael biting the big one, which isn't too far out of the realm of possiblity given some of the spoilers I've read. And I wouldn't be too upset if that happened either, frankly.

Date: 2005-04-06 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I keep thinking back to what Josh Holloway said, that whoever is getting killed is someone whose storyline isn't going anywhere. Boone's storyline is going somewhere -- not in a big way, but as the one person Locke can confide in. And Locke's got a big part in that island.

Whereas if you look at, say, Michael or Jin or (God forbid) Sawyer, they're really not going too many places with them. I mean, are Michael and Jin honestly going to get anywhere with that raft? No, and that's all they're doing anymore. And Sawyer ... well, he's awfully pretty, but he's also got serious deathbed-confession fodder with that information about Jack's dad being proud of him.

I don't know. I just don't want anybody to die. (Even though I do.) Can't we just keep them all? *whimpers*

Date: 2005-04-06 01:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] valerie
*whimpers with you*

See, your perspective on the whole Michael/Jin thing is like mine... all they're doing now is building the raft and being unable to communicate. Add to that the spoiler I've read that the raft will set sail at the end of the season, and my speculative brain thinks that they'll be floating Michael's dead body in the raft in a Viking-style sendoff.

Just lemme keep my Jack and Sawyer.

Date: 2005-04-06 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loopychew.livejournal.com
Well, if the raft will be floating off at the end of the season, keep in mind that it was built for four people, and it's very well possible that Sawyer, Michael, and Walt will be bringing aboard another body with them.

If that's the case, I'm going to say Danielle, since if she dies, she'll get a scene in which she finally escapes the island she's been trapped on for the past sixteen years. In a bodybag, yes, but she gets a sendoff.

Date: 2005-04-06 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kindyll.livejournal.com
I still have hope for Jin and Sun to fix things, so lets not kill him please. or her!

Date: 2005-04-06 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wer-bin-ich.livejournal.com
You tickle my brain!! This is going to be on my mind allll day now. ;-)

Date: 2005-04-06 01:46 pm (UTC)
ext_14712: (better in blue)
From: [identity profile] unanon.livejournal.com
I've been thinking along similar lines. It just seems too cut-and-dry for Boone to be the 'death' right now. It's too clean.

Date: 2005-04-06 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silentfire.livejournal.com
what you've said about boone's fate makes a lot of sense, especially when coupled with the fact that i don't particularly want him to die ;) i mean, he's dumb, and yet you can't help but love him.

the wrinkle in time stuff you posited is fascinating, and absolutely creepy and cracked-out enough for this show. i'm eager now to see where they go with the transmission plotline.

The mystery of where Ethan came from (did he come from the future and therefore know something about these people's futures that they don't?)

the first thing that popped into my head when i read that was dude, what if ethan is claire's baby from the *future*, all grown up and fucked up from living on a desert island his whole life?!

see, i'm running on very little sleep, and that could explain my reaction. it's also possible that i'm just a nutter. you know, whichever.

um, hi.

Date: 2005-04-06 02:01 pm (UTC)
bcgphoenix: (♪ you aallll everyboday! ♪)
From: [personal profile] bcgphoenix
the first thing that popped into my head when i read that was dude, what if ethan is claire's baby from the *future*, all grown up and fucked up from living on a desert island his whole life?!

!!

You just made me shriek out loud. At work. If that theory never comes to pass, then damn would it at least make a cool fanfic.

Date: 2005-04-06 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palmetto.livejournal.com
Makes me wonder what Charlie ever did to him, if that's the case.

Date: 2005-04-06 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purple-smurf.livejournal.com
And people wonder why I've given up being spoiler-free ;)

Date: 2005-04-06 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chang-o.livejournal.com
Did you ever watch The X-Files? I did; and in that show, *a lot* of the plot twists & strangeness, along with the theories they generated, went unresolved, so now I am rather leary of shows that try to taunt the with *too many* mysterious & bizarre twists. I hope Lost doesn't turn out that way. I'm just sayin'...

Date: 2005-04-06 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chang-o.livejournal.com
"taunt the viewer..." acck.

Date: 2005-04-06 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catystorm.livejournal.com
Mm. Going along with the "Ethan is Claire's child all grown up" theory; what if Claire bites it in childbirth? That would explain the all-grown-up-twisted bit.

Date: 2005-04-06 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedilora.livejournal.com
But haven't they said that the girls are safe? At least for now?

Although that'd also be an interesting ficbit. However, now my brain wants to crossover with Charmed.

Date: 2005-04-06 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
The biggest reason that I'm sure Claire's going to survive childbirth is that if the baby does live, they can't feed it without her. I really don't think they're going to kill Claire or the baby, since they've been so important to the storyline so far.

Date: 2005-04-07 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lots42.livejournal.com
Um...mushy fruit, people?

Date: 2005-04-07 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
That is waaaaaay too much of a burden to the rest of the islanders (not to mention the writers, having to work in the baby and/or other people taking care of the baby all the time). And you can't just feed a newborn mushed-up fruit forever. The only way that kid's going to get enough nutrients to survive at all on that island is if Claire stays alive to feed it. Well, unless Danielle's got a storehouse full of Enfamil somewhere on the island.

Date: 2005-04-07 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lots42.livejournal.com
My theory is if Jack wished hard enough, he could get dancing naked slave girls carrying Enfamil to Conga through the caves.

Date: 2005-04-06 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loopychew.livejournal.com
Ack no, not Claire! (I think her natural cuteness has turned her into the closest thing to a woobie I've got in Lost.)

My personal bets? Shannon. Considering her blooming relationship with Sayid plus Boone's continued Shannon-centric psychosis, I don't think it'd be too much to think either he's going to snap (feverish delusions after the latest injuries?) and take it out on her, or perhaps she'll end up sacrificing herself to save Sayid.

There is one more theory I've got, but I'll post it to the other thread.

Date: 2005-04-07 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lots42.livejournal.com
If I understand the terminology right, Jin is the biggest woobie on the island.

Date: 2005-04-06 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myniamh.livejournal.com
I keep thinking about the title of last weeks show (even with the double meaning of the spelling mistake) 'Dues ex Machina'. As far as I know it's a literary device where the writer can create a 'god' to solve a previously 'insurmountable problem', like getting that hatch/airlock open.
Or saving someone's life.
With the spelling mistake it could also mean the price they are about to pay for something, the door opening or Boon surviving.

Date: 2005-04-06 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minotaurs.livejournal.com
The writers have verified that it was, "No, we're the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815."

OMGWTFBBQ? Where?! I totally heard "There were no survivors of..."! That changes *everything*! I swear, by the end of this season they're gonna wear out our WTF reflex. Teddy bears will rain from the sky, and we'll all be "Yawn. What.Ever." Madonna will show up on the beach with dancing boys, and we'll just nod and say "Next?".

Date: 2005-04-06 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
OMGWTFBBQ? Where?!

Right here. And I know what you mean. "There were no ..." wouldn't be so bad. "No, we're the ..." is fucked UP.

Date: 2005-04-06 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taea-dol.livejournal.com
Well here in Canada we got the previews for tonight, and you have Jack cracking Boone's bones and screaming at Kate to run to the beach if they want to save him. On her running way she sees Claire who is giving birth and then screams for help. Jin hears this and all you see is him running towards the jungle and some eerie music, leading me to believe that he may be the one to bite the dust....

I'm pretty sure we arent the only ones to have these previews tough.

Date: 2005-04-06 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wenchamok.livejournal.com
My evil thought on the impending death.....Well, Josh's interview said someone whose backstory hasn't been perking along much. And all I could think of was Walt. But would they be bastards enough to kill the little boy? Gut reaction is no, but.....they do like to fuck with us....

Date: 2005-04-06 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I just really want them to switch it up and have it not be Boone, simply because playing up the someone-dies-someone-is-born angle is cliched and stupid, and it would be really cool if they were using it to fake out the audience.

Or they could have been stringing us along for all this time making us think that they'd switch it up when actually they're just going to play it straight, in which case, BAH. I already had my brothers taken away from TAR last night, I don't want moronic dramatic cliches tonight.

*sigh* I hate this show. And I love it. It's a vicious circle. I haven't felt this way about a show since the second season of Buffy.

Date: 2005-04-06 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wenchamok.livejournal.com
Didn't they say the death would be in the finale though? I think Boone at the moment is safe, but who knows come finale day....

Date: 2005-04-06 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Last time I heard, they said we were getting the death before the finale.

Date: 2005-04-07 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lots42.livejournal.com
'Mimic' killed off two kids. Kids who got tons of lines and shit got horribly murdered

Date: 2005-04-06 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iphignia939.livejournal.com
This show is actually *worse* than Buffy, because on Buffy, sometimes a book was just a book. Here, we have to pay attention to what people are reading. Which is awesome, in a "I hate you so very, very much, JJ Abrams"-kind of way.

Also, the only promo pictures *anyone* has seen - as far as I know - involve Jack and his dad, and four of Shannon and Sayid. Which tells us NOTHING. GAAAAAH. (And for the record, I don't think they've released any *past* tonight's ep, so that's not helpful, either.)

Date: 2005-04-06 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonwhishes.livejournal.com
This show has so many subplots that the subplots have subplots. I wanna hug it.

As for the Boone thing (I havn't watched the last few shows due to stuff happening), it's possible they could kill him off just to make us go "Whoa. They didn't pull one over on us." and then do something completly wacked to make us go "WHAT THE HELL?"

The one where the people said "No, WE'RE the..." one I have a small theory for. Saying that there are different levels to reality, and the island just ties them all together, but something (the hatch, maybe?) is causing it to tear a little bit. So in one reality, the people on the one plane get killed, but in another they don't?

Question: What was their plane's number, anyway? What's so fucked up about the radio saying "No, WE'RE the..."? *confused*

Date: 2005-04-06 07:06 pm (UTC)
ext_4055: (nerdproud)
From: [identity profile] chandri.livejournal.com
Something really horrible just occurred to me... they said none of the main females are going to die (as if they can spare any), and Boone does seem too obvious. And your "Jack-might-be-too-busy-saving-Boone-to-save-someone-else" thing made me remember that this episode is supposed to have Claire *finally* going into labour. As the most obvious alternate-peril situation, this made my brain remind me: "She thinks the baby's a boy."

I mean, if Ethan is from the future, or a parallel universe, Claire's-kid-all-grown-up, maybe he hates what he's become and he's come back to kill... himself?

*big wide eyes of denial* (Poor Claire.)

Date: 2005-04-06 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budclare.livejournal.com
Maybe Boone will die and come back to life like Charlie did, and then they'll start their own undead rock band. Deadshaft or something.

(Half of that was actually a serious suggestion, since we still don't know why Charlie is alive.)

Date: 2005-04-07 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foresthouse.livejournal.com
He's alive so JJ Abrams doesn't get lynched by angry fans! Heh.

Date: 2005-04-07 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foresthouse.livejournal.com
I totally forgot it was Lostnesday until I saw your post. Thanks, or I would have missed the whole show!

Date: 2005-04-07 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lots42.livejournal.com
It would explain how the polar bear came back. And how Boone 'slept' for six hours when they were on the watch for Ethan. 'Cuz it seemed damned weird that nobody checked up on his ass. Being sucked forward through time would explain it

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