apocalypsos: (shannon)
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So, here's the thing. I love Shannon. I do. As bitchy as she can be, I love the little blond twit. And while I understand all of the anti-Shannon bias out there, I do feel like I have to stand up and defend her, since it doesn't look like anybody else is stepping forward to do so anytime soon.

Let's just get this out of the way first things first. Am I going to deny she's a bitch? No, that wouldn't exactly help my argument. She is a bitch, but then again, someone has to be the bitch. You can't have every single female being this wonderful, sweet, gentle flower of feminity. It doesn't work that way. If every single woman was, under her faults, kind and beautiful and well-meaning, we as a fandom would be crying foul. Not all women are like this, we'd be saying. Enter Shannon.

I mean, let's look at the other women on the island who've been given substantial parts. Kate is ... well, the writers would have us believe that regardless of her criminal record and possible murderous past, Kate means well, can do pretty much everything, is beautiful and capable, etc. Personally, I don't want to watch Kate, because either she's being portrayed as too perfect or, when she's allowed to be selfish, is difficult to watch. Claire is cute and adorable and is now a mother. She's lovely, but she's also never been one for displays of anger. Sun is smart, creative, and the calm center of the storm. And Rose, the few times we have seen her, has been the spiritual earth mother of the survivors.

Damn it, somebody needs to be the pissed-off one. Someone needs to have spoiled fits, throw things, have tantrums and just be generally self-centered and pessimistic every once in a while. And let me point out that I did not say "always." Shannon is not always the bitch, the same way that Claire is not always the adorable one and Kate is not always the one who knows what to do (although it certainly feels that way sometimes). Shannon is the one who's allowed to say what the rest of the castaways (and the audience) may be thinking, but might not want to say. She doesn't have to use the same off-switch that everyone else gets to use out of politeness, although she does use it most of the time.

Now, when they first landed on that island, Shannon wasn't being forced to change her ways. In one of the few optimistic displays she's ever shown, she was positive that a ship was coming to save them. Granted, there was a substantial thread of selfishness in that belief, because it meant that she didn't have to help them prepare or hunt for food or anything. But there was a certain desperate hopefulness to it, because if they weren't getting rescued, then she was going to have to grow up and behave like someone who wasn't a spoiled princess. And with the life she'd had, would any of us want to give that up?

But think of the difference between the Shannon we met in the first few episodes and the Shannon we saw in "Do No Harm." The simplest comparison would come when you compare what Shannon was wearing when she went to Sawyer for bug repellent way back when and what she was wearing when she and Sayid showed up at the end of "Do No Harm." Back then, she walked up to him in a filmy top and skirt wearing flipflops. In "Do No Harm," she spent the episode wearing a sensibly light long-sleeved shirt over a tank top (light enough to be cool in the warm temperatures but covering up enough to keep her from burning), jean shorts, and sneakers. Over the course of the season, she's probably made the quietest adaptation from acting as if she's on an extended beach vacation to realizing that they're probably going to be there a while, and even if she doesn't get as much screentime as many of the others, the costumers have made a simple display of how she's changed in her wardrobe.

Of course, she's not all fixed and perfect. That's not coming anytime soon. Think of how much she has in common with Cordelia Chase from "Buffy" and "Angel." They're both spoiled little princesses used to getting whatever they want until extraordinary circumstances beyond their control forced them to change their attitudes. Cordelia took several seasons to change, and even when we'd been exposed to her for three seasons, I can remember the fanbase raising a collective "Uh ... why?!" when it was announced that Cordelia would be heading to L.A. and working with Angel. I can still remember people calling her a bitch even then, and that was after three seasons worth of working her slowly away from that. If Shannon suddenly became a cuddly, fluffy kitten overnight, we'd shout down the writers with complaints. She's going to be like this for a while.

I think we all realize that a lot of the change in Shannon's personality will come this week, when we see how she reacts in front of the others in regards to Boone's death. As much as it might pain me to say it considering how much I liked the dumb little puppy, Boone's death does have as much resonance as the writers have said it does. It affects Locke, who loses his greatest ally; it affects Jack, who couldn't save him; it affect Sayid, who now has to deal with whatever Shannon's reaction to this is; and it affects Shannon in huge, life-altering ways. This was her brother, no matter how much they might have downplayed that aspect of their relationship. Just because they were stepsiblings didn't change the fact that she always expected him to rush in and save the day, and he always came to help whenever they called. When I made the reference in Red Shirts and Blue Blankets to Boone holding her hair back while she vomited and making bulimia jokes, that's the exact mental image in my head of their relationship. Yes, they sniped at one another and fought and generally called each other every nasty name in the book, but he took care of her and she came to expect that she didn't have to worry about anything because her big brother was there to defend her.

But now Boone's not there to protect her, and you can't tell me that if you did cry during "Do No Harm," it wasn't during that scene where Shannon broke down. I think that that was the precise moment when she realized what a huge part of her life he was and how that piece of her life had just been ripped away from her. It's going to be interesting to see how she behaves for the rest of the season. It would be nice to see her find a new source of independence without Boone around to protect her, but it would be just as in character if she suddenly latched onto Sayid to a frightening extreme. And I wouldn't be surprised if Sayid played along for a while while gently working to let her off the hook and try to get her to be her own person. To be honest, if she's going to try and attach herself to a male protector on the island, it's probably a good thing she is going out with Sayid, because he'd be the one most likely to be gentle about transitioning her from dependent spoiled princess into independent woman.

Now, do I think that they'll last as a couple? Not really. I mean, I love Shannon and Sayid, and they're not bad together, but I don't see this relationship as being anything other than a way to get Shannon to grow up and become her own woman. Sayid is a gentleman of the highest order, but he's also not one to coddle Shannon when he knows she can take damn good care of herself. Hell, he even said as much to Boone. But this is pretty much a doomed relationship without some major change on her behalf, and like I said, I don't think "major change" is really something to look forward to anytime soon with Shannon.

I think my main problem with everybody's hate-on for Shannon is ... well, let me put it this way. There's a blond on the island who's a total jerk. At the beginning of the season, they didn't do a goddamn thing to help anyone, and only recently have they begun to show signs of being more integral to the workings of the island. They're snotty, snappish, and make a lot of lame, sarcastic comments, but they're gorgeous, so they think they can get away with it.

Was I talking about Shannon there? No, actually, I was talking about Sawyer. But, see, it's okay if Sawyer does it, because Sawyer is handsome and sexy and takes off his shirt a lot. *growls*

Look, I love Sawyer, too. And I know they're not exactly alike. But they are close enough in temperment and behavior to make me pissed off about the double standard. Let me get this straight -- it's okay if a man does it, because it's charming and sexy, but if a woman does it, it's bitchy and repellent? This is what bothers me the most about anti-Shannon complaints. Because the same people who complain about her selfishness and laziness fawn all over Sawyer for the exact same behavior.

Shannon is not that bad. Look at this way. The self-centered twit isn't around anymore at that level, and that's without the influence that Boone's death will bring on. Just imagine how much more palatable she might be in the future when she has to make do for herself and has to stop relying on everyone else.

*steps down from soapbox*

Date: 2005-04-12 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebratqueen.livejournal.com
Something I'd add to the mix is that consider the life that Shannon had where sleeping with her stepbrother/caretaker was considered a viable option for her. This isn't a girl who's had a happy go lucky background. Arguably, she's starting out even better than Cordelia because Cordelia was a bitch simply because she could be. I'd wager a great deal of Shannon's bitchy tendencies come from her learning that either she forcibly carved out a place for herself in the world or it just was not going to happen.

Thus sayeth someone who likes Shannon. And Cordy, back before she became a pod person. But hey, eventually the pod person thing was canon so I guess it evens out.

Date: 2005-04-12 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bibliotech.livejournal.com
I miss the days when I hated Shannon and everyone was "OMG SHE'S SO MEAN AND EVIL HOW COOL!"

Now I just love her, in Cordy-like was, and everyone's going "SHE'S SO MEAN AND EVIL SHE SUCKS!"

*sigh*

Date: 2005-04-12 03:19 pm (UTC)
ext_14712: (better in blue)
From: [identity profile] unanon.livejournal.com
Is there really such a hate-on for Shannon in the Lost fandom? *ducks head around fandom corner for a peek* I had no idea. She's vapid and blunt and leagues more interesting than Kate.

Methinks that eventually the fandom will be full of people claiming to have loved Shannon from the beginning. *shrug* Time will tell.

Date: 2005-04-12 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Oh, God, everytime I turn around, I run into someone who hates Shannon. Although, then again, it's gotten to the point now where no one wants to admit they hate her.

She's vapid and blunt and leagues more interesting than Kate.

Amen. Kate is such a Mary Sue she's impossible to watch anymore.

Date: 2005-04-12 03:32 pm (UTC)
shadowcat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowcat
Shannon is just more real

Date: 2005-04-12 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Anymore? Kate was a Mary Sue from episode 1, and I have correspondingly hated her for it.

Date: 2005-04-12 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I was willing to give her leeway for it for a while, but I haven't done so in a looooooong time. At this point, the only thing I like about her is her complexion.

Date: 2005-04-13 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budclare.livejournal.com
Her hair is kinda nice, too.

(I don't really mind her just 'cause I'm fairly certain that one of these days she's going to snap and kill everyone. Not that I want everyone to die, but it would be kind of funny.)

Date: 2005-04-14 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secretbutterfly.livejournal.com
I love Shannon. When I first started watching and she was being spoiled princess getting a tan I was like, "Yes! A real reaction! Denial!"
Anyway I just love her. And not just for the rope comment she made to Sayid that one time.

Date: 2005-04-12 03:40 pm (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
I'm just getting into watching lost (something which is entirely your fault, by the way), but I *think* I like Shannon more than anybody else. She's not determined to be a hero. She's not being mean to get everybody to hate her. She doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. It's great. More people are like that than like Super Doctor and Angst Girl.

Date: 2005-04-12 03:40 pm (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
Oh, anybody else except Hurley, I mean.

Date: 2005-04-12 03:41 pm (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
Huh. Just to finish my posting, one bad turn deserves another. Have you been watching BSG regularly?

Date: 2005-04-14 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secretbutterfly.livejournal.com
Super Doctor and Angst Girl. *snerk* I think I love you.

Date: 2005-04-12 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crantz.livejournal.com
so, is that why I see people calling her 'kate the good'?

Date: 2005-04-12 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franticgoddess.livejournal.com
I don't like her, but I appreciate her presence and she is waaaaaaaaaaaaayyy more intersting than Kate. It's just sometimes, I just want to kill her because she reminds me of so many people I know.

Date: 2005-04-12 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccak1961.livejournal.com
Shannon reminds me of the classic soap opera bad girl, only not quite so bad. I think you're right that the show needs someone to fill the role, but the role is to be disliked. Although I call her the toothy meme chick, I still like her better than I do Kate. Claire is like cotton candy. Sweet but no substance, at least not yet. Her role is just incubator, her whole story is relation to the fetus; pregnant! Fortune Teller! Adoption! Kidnapped! Hope! and none of it over Claire herself. I don't like Shannon, but I want her on the island, I want to see her interactions, she's interesting.

Date: 2005-04-12 04:24 pm (UTC)
lizbetann: (sayid catnip)
From: [personal profile] lizbetann
Her role is just incubator, her whole story is relation to the fetus; pregnant!

Actually, I was rather impressed that, particularly in the beginning, they didn't do that. Yes, "8 months pregnant" is going to be a major part of how everyone reacts to her, but she was also the person to arrange gravesite readings for the passengers who died in the crash (even if all she had were their passports and wallets to guess a life by). She also got to/gets to have a romance; imminent motherhood did not put her out of bounds for sexuality.

By the time of the whole Ethan-kidnaps-her and since (which is, of course, freshest in everyone's mind) it had focused a lot more narrowly on her pregnant state.

Date: 2005-04-12 05:29 pm (UTC)
akacat: A cute cat holding a computer mice by the cord. (Default)
From: [personal profile] akacat
I started out hating Sawyer a lot more than I ever hated Shannon. She's spoiled and self-centered, but she never seemed to go out of her way to be disagreeable.

Date: 2005-04-12 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ficangel.livejournal.com
Heh, I liked Sawyer and Shannon from the beginning. Does that give me that all-important cred to talk about her now? *ducks*

Really, though, I loved this essay and will be pimping it most enthusiastically to everyone that I can. My only recent beef with Shannon is that I think she's becoming nice too quickly. As you said, Cordelia took three years to become a hero and even then she was snippy and snotty and very much still the princess in her first two years on Angel, even if she was the princess who could always be counted on at crunch time and who often said what people really needed to hear. Shannon has gone from the spoiled bitch to the obnoxious truth teller to someone almost sweet in the span of a month, and I don't think that's realistic at all. I want my bitch back. I don't like this new, gentle version very much at all (note: I'm not including any of her reactions to Boone's death in my assessment of the too nice Shannon), and I don't like that the writers do feel the need to soften her so much so quickly in order to make her "likeable" on the order of Kate and Claire. Claire was very much a non-entity to me until I saw that she had some emotions going on beyond the sweetness, and I don't like Kate because I feel that Kate is always playing a role and has no idea who she actually is. Shannon is falling back into that same habit of playing the role with Sayid right now, which is doubly sad because I think Sayid first came to be interested in her when he saw that she was willing to help out but was also willing to snap at him when she was frustrated, rather than the deference that he gets from most other castaways.

Date: 2005-04-12 06:41 pm (UTC)
ext_9141: (Sawyer's nerdcore glasses (OMG sexy!))
From: [identity profile] suaine.livejournal.com
Heh, me too. I liked them both, and I miss bitchy Shannon too. I do believe that she is playing her relationship with Sayid the only way she knows how, and that it includes playing the role of the cute little button.

Date: 2005-04-12 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedusor.livejournal.com
You have a lot of time on your hands, don't you?

Date: 2005-04-12 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Nah, I just have nobody to talk Lost with in real life. ;)

Date: 2005-04-12 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedusor.livejournal.com
I guess I just don't have this level of obsession with the show. Lost doesn't really appeal to me as much as it seems to appeal to most people. It's good, I'll watch it, I'll discuss it, but I'm not about to write a 14-paragraph essay about why a certain character doesn't deserve all the grief she gets from Lost fans.

(If, however, I had been able to finish watching season 3 of QAF US, I would quite possibly have written a 14-paragraph essay on why Ethan doesn't deserve all the grief he gets from QAF fans. So I guess I shouldn't really be talking.)

Date: 2005-04-14 07:00 pm (UTC)
fyrdrakken: (Lost)
From: [personal profile] fyrdrakken
Which is worse -- that you counted the paragraphs, or that I read the above and scrolled up to count the paragraphs to see if you had really counted them or just pulled an amusing number out of thin air?

Date: 2005-04-14 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedusor.livejournal.com
It's quite possible that we both need to get a life :)

Date: 2005-04-15 09:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fyrdrakken
Admittedly, I cut myself a lot of slack for any online activity carried out from work, since I'm hideously bored and with access to a T-1 line.

Date: 2005-04-12 06:37 pm (UTC)
ext_9141: (Sawyer's nerdcore glasses (OMG sexy!))
From: [identity profile] suaine.livejournal.com
I think that's what has always, always bothered me most about people who said that they hated Shannon: she's so much like Sawyer it's scary and the double standard is so blatant it hurts.

Then again, I think Shannon is totally hotter than Sawyer, and he's still my favorite (in a slight lead before Shannon, who has the tiniest lead over Sayid). What bothers people is that they know Shannon, everyone knows a Shannon or two, and she's the one who hasn't been made into a girl with a troubled past, whose skills don't save anyone, who's pretty normal with your basic humanity just there on her sleeve.

I love Shannon. She's manipulative, she's vindictive, but most of all she's human. The absolute pretty is just the cherry on top.

Date: 2005-04-12 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clex_monkie89.livejournal.com
I'm not about to say that I've loved Shannon since the begining because I haven't. But I've never hated her. I remember commenting to a friend of mine on how it was wierd because there was no one on the show I hated, even the ones I didn't like I did. Very rarely were/are women actually likable characters on TV these days.
I liked Shannon the least at first cause she came off as a poor little spoiled rich-girl and I just couldn't stand that. But as soon as they started to show her actually becoming anything? Oh yeah, she's a hell of a lot cooler now, still not my favorite but a hell of a lot cooler.
I can tell you the exact moment I started to dislike Jack. The second he decided to stitch himself up. I'm sorry but something about that just... No. It hit me wrong somehow. Like in the "why the hell didn't he just ask someone else in the first place" sort of way.
At the same time I liked Kate at first until she started being there all the frickin time. Hmmm... Come to think of it I didn't start warming up to Sawyer until Kate's episode. He tried to put the marshal out of his misery. He really tried to do the right thing. And I started going all softy over that. By the time his episode came around I was in love.

Date: 2005-04-13 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paynbow.livejournal.com
I'm going to stand up and say AMEN, because I LIKE Shannon. I have since about...oh, the 5th or 6th episode when I decided to cut her some slack. Of course, I didn't like Sawyer in the pilot either. But, yeah, with you one the Shannon love. She's awesome!

Date: 2005-04-13 08:28 pm (UTC)
ext_10182: Anzo-Berrega Desert (FMA- god prefers an atheist)
From: [identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com
At the beginning of the season, they didn't do a goddamn thing to help anyone, and only recently have they begun to show signs of being more integral to the workings of the island. They're snotty, snappish, and make a lot of lame, sarcastic comments, but they're gorgeous, so they think they can get away with it.

Actually, you can add to that double standard the fact that Sawyer is a con artist who robs people for a living and who killed someone out of cold blooded revenge. Both things I'm pretty sure that Shannon hasn't done.

Date: 2005-04-14 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] resmin.livejournal.com
Damn skippy. And as part of the "Shannon rocks" bandwagon, I'd just like to say thanks for typing this up.

Date: 2005-04-14 06:54 pm (UTC)
fyrdrakken: (Smartass)
From: [personal profile] fyrdrakken
Haven't even read down the comments yet, but just had to show off this icon again -- because yeah, I really do think the major reason Shannon comes in for grief from female fans is the slashers' tendency to tear down the female characters to give them the excuse to pair up their fave male characters. But anyway.

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