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Oh, for crying out loud. There's "why do you losers write fanfic?" wank starting up in the comments of my [livejournal.com profile] mock_the_stupid post about that moronic review from the other day. *eye roll*

In other news, not the best episode of the season, but still okay.

By character ...

Sayid -- Aww, he just gets screwed over no matter where he turns, doesn't he? *cuddles* You've got to give the guy credit, though. Just imagine being in his position and falling for a girl right when her brother gets bumped off in a situation like that. Of course, now it looks like the Good Ship Shannon/Sayid is dead in the water (and I love both characters, but good riddance). Also, Sayid looks AMAZING offset by firelight. (What? I don't have much to say about this episode other than, "Look at the pretty people!")

Shannon -- Sweetie, I love you, and I know you're upset about your brother's possible murder, but PUT THE GUN DOWN. I have to hand it to you, though, because you spent the first half of the episode falling into your normal relationship workings of manipulating a guy to do exactly what you wanted and ended it being the one who came through with what you wanted. (Okay, admittedly, you fucked it up, but still.) And did I miss a meeting or something, because I know that they had to take the guns out to fight Ethan, but were you around when they were reburying the metal case to know where it was? 'Cause honestly, I don't remember that one.

Jack -- Jack, if you want to be the leader, fine. But get some freaking rest, for crying out loud. You not only went through a harrowing ordeal trying to keep Boone alive, but you also gave him a good amount of your blood. It pains me to say it, but Kate was right to drug you.

Locke -- Locke's just ... I can never settle on batshit insane or smartest person on the island, but this week he certainly leaned towards the latter. I have this vague feeling at times like this that we're going to get to the end of the series, Locke will be this wise man/shaman type, and we'll all be sitting around wondering why we ever thought he was nuts. Or, you know, vice versa.

Charlie -- Bwahahahahahahaha. "Keep going!" *snerk* And when he trailed after Sawyer all excited and giddy, I just lost it. :)

Claire -- Hon, if the nice unshaven man wants to babysit so you can take a nap, let him. I know the island's dangerous and it feels like something wants to take your baby, but you're not going to be able to do much if the kidlet's keeping you up. Also, Bob. Joe. Danny. Steve. Arthur. Swiss Cheese. PICK SOMETHING TO NAME THE KID, DAMN IT. I know it's only been a day, but you can't tell me that in your wildest dreams, you didn't have a name (or several) picked out already. Sorry, but not knowing what you're going to name your kid when it's born is one of my baby-naming pet peeves, along with juniors and seniors, names that aren't actually names, and names you should know damn well will get your kid's ass kicked on a playground. NAME HIM. Grrrrrrrr.

Hurley -- James Brown! HEE. Okay, off-key, badly screeched James Brown, but just for thinking that would calm a baby, ten points to Gryffindor. :)

Sawyer -- I'd just like to make an announcement. Seeing an angry Sawyer in his dorky glasses reading aloud to an entranced baby did such a number on my poor defenseless hormones that I've spontaneously generated a pregnancy and I'm expecting Sawyer's first baby in February. So there.

Sun -- Okay, it was kinda cute when she was comforting Kate at the funeral.

Kate -- Can't you just stand in the background and be pretty? 'Cause I do think you're pretty, but I think it's the walking and talking where you have a problem. Oh, and also you might have a small problem with having Jack on the brain. Let's focus on the bigger picture rather than, "OMG Jack tripped in the woods!"

Jin and Michael -- So where the hell IS the porn? Seriously, those two have gone to bickering like crazy to learning English and Korean back and forth. Although, I still think Michael's stupid and irresponsible for wanting to bring Walt on that raft, but like anybody listens to me.

Walt -- Okay, not too much with the freaky this week, but next week's promo? GYAH.

Date: 2005-05-05 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] disc-sophist.livejournal.com
But Charlie did name it. Turnip-head!

Date: 2005-05-05 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Well, yeah. That was cute. :) But I still want a real name already, damn it. *growls again*

Date: 2005-05-05 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedilora.livejournal.com
Well, Saywer did call him Baby Huey. It kinda sounds like a real name...but yeah. Kiddo needs a NAME.

Date: 2005-05-05 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lezopez.livejournal.com
I smell a spin-off for Jin and Michael...

Date: 2005-05-05 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eleniangel.livejournal.com
Sort of a Gilligan's Island show? Two guys lost at sea in a tiny craft?


Uh, sorry...backs away now.

Date: 2005-05-05 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altiloquent.livejournal.com
Wait a second. That guy bashes fanfic, but the link in his userinfo to a webpage is to a COVER BAND? That he is either in or supports? DOES HE NOT UNDERSTAND HYPOCRISY?

Date: 2005-05-05 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I didn't even notice that! *giggles hysterically*

Date: 2005-05-05 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eleniangel.livejournal.com
Re the fanfic guy: Some people have no common sense. At all. Half of all of the good writers out there had to start somewhere.

Date: 2005-05-05 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Fanfic is probably the best practice I've ever had for writing. It taught me how to perfect details to fit canon, to work a plot around established characters, and to capture the voice of a character. I've always said that if I ever got the opportunity to teach a creative writing class, I'd make every student read some decent fanfic and write me one as well for the practice.

Also, it can be a hell of a lot of fun. :) (Says the girl who's now having a blast writing the monster [livejournal.com profile] xmmficathon entry of doooooooom.)

Date: 2005-05-05 06:31 am (UTC)
musyc: Silver flute resting diagonally across sheet music (found out)
From: [personal profile] musyc
Sawyer. Running like scared puppy from tiny baby.
Sawyer. Wearing glasses, reading car magazine. Very pissed about it.
Me. Laughing hysterically and plotting to corrupt Josh Holloway in naughty, naughty ways.

Date: 2005-05-05 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Sawyer. Running like scared puppy from tiny baby.
Sawyer. Wearing glasses, reading car magazine. Very pissed about it.


Both hilariously funny, but I can't help but wish there had been a running gag of Charlie chasing Sawyer through the background of several scenes before we got to the Automotive Book Club.

Date: 2005-05-05 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wenchamok.livejournal.com
Oh sweet Goddess, yes please.... I was laughing so hard when Charlie started chasing Sawyer....

Date: 2005-05-05 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paynbow.livejournal.com
My Sayid-love knows no bounds...his badassness at the end? w00t Sayid! And Sawyer the babysitter had me squeeing as I cuddled a pillow *g*

On Locke...I have to go with crazy. I think he thinks he's doing the best thing for everyone on the island, but I don't necessarily trust his judgement. And how he can sit next to Shannon when he full on IS responsible for Boone's death (at least partly). He KNEW Boone would die in the plane from his crazy hallucination/vision, and yet... "I should have stopped him" was the emptiest damn thing he could have said and made me cheer for Shannon, even though I knew it was a) stupid b) wrong and c) probably not good for the future of the people on the island...

Date: 2005-05-05 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
On Locke...I have to go with crazy. I think he thinks he's doing the best thing for everyone on the island, but I don't necessarily trust his judgement.

See, I'm not sure one way or the other. What would really help is if we knew anything about what the hell is going on on that island, because until then, his sanity is in question.

He KNEW Boone would die in the plane from his crazy hallucination/vision, and yet...

That's the thing. I'm not sure he did know. I mean, yes, he saw Boone covered with blood, but he also saw his mother in the jungle pointing at the sky. As someone with no experience having visions (we assume), he could have easily convinced himself that if he hadn't seen her in the woods, the flashes of a blood-covered Boone weren't going to happen, either. He could have been in an incredible amount of denial. Of course, there is the more frightening concept that he did realize it, and in a way, he was testing the strength of that vision. But considering how upset he got over Boone's death, I'm not so sure.

Date: 2005-05-05 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I don't think that Locke could have known that Boone was going to die. Be injured, possibly, but not die. After all, Locke is covered in blood at the moment, but he's quite healthy. No problems with his legs at all.

Little do we know that the island was bought from a place called The Curiosity Shop and it's going to demand regular blood sacrifice to keep Locke walking...

Date: 2005-05-05 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paynbow.livejournal.com
See, I'm in the "he knew about Boone" camp because...well, really I'm biased. I've thought Locke was creepy since day one. The minute he said to Walt "Want to know a secret" all the pedophile alarms in my head when off (even though they've proved false). I also can't get over Claire's dream where Locke's eyes are all black and the crib he made her is overflowing with blood. Then he sees Boone covered in blood talking about Theresa, and when he finds out Theresa and the plane are real, he still goes through with sending Boone in to probable death. I think he regretted what happened, but I also think the hatch was more important and that he'd send Boone into the plane again in a heartbeat. But, again, biased *g*

Date: 2005-05-05 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diannelamerc.livejournal.com
Whereas I'm (again :) biased 180-degrees off. I've adored Locke since the minute he did his orange-peel grin and I nearly fell off the couch laughing. (And frankly I tend to put his ominious appearance in Claire's dream down to Ethan not having a face to them yet and Locke making a pretty scary-type figure, especially if you're feeling vulnerable anyway.)

I think blood-on-vision-Boone suggested injury and danger, but they've all gotten bloodied before without it being fatal (usually covered in each other's blood). And Boone was 'alive' and talking, so it didn't necessarily seem to fortell a death. (At the time *I* figured it did, but I full believe Locke didn't read it that way. No one -- except may be himself -- had gotten even seriously hurt by The Island in his own private Dream Quest before.)

Basically I think Locke is the mystical magical sage-guy -- because he wants so badly to be so, and because he is actually well-suited to the job. Because he's always thinking that way, and because he seems to be the only one (other than possibly Walt, who he identified early on) who is picking up on the interconnections/signs/messages from the island. (Whether it's a conscious thing on the part of the island, or whether he's just better attuned to seeing things others missed [Charlie's guitar, the Beechcraft & pilot, the hatch] has very much yet to be proven.)

But I don't think he has anything more than general life experience, whatever reading-up he did on his planned walkabout, whatever the island _may_ be 'giving' him, and his own desire to be The Sage to go on. And that's why he makes mistakes. That's why he keeps secrets unnecessarily and for too damned long.

Because, like all of them, he's making most of it up as he goes along. And, had he known Boone would die of it, or were he given another chance, I sincerely don't believe Locke would have sent Boone up there. (Although "found a way to eventually crawl up there his own damned stupid self, still with no backup/assistance himself" I wouldn't put past him.)

Date: 2005-05-05 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diannelamerc.livejournal.com
Funny, I thought his drop-by with Shanon on the beach was done pretty much perfectly: I screwed up. I feel responsible. I'm sorry. I hope you can forgive me." And then big bonus points for taking his uninvited self off and not waiting around like he was expecting insta-forgiveness (or anything) from her. *shrug*

Date: 2005-05-05 09:55 am (UTC)
ext_3751: (3someprofile)
From: [identity profile] phoebesmum.livejournal.com
Why do we write fan fiction? Because it's there, same reason anyone does anything.

Date: 2005-05-05 10:50 am (UTC)
akacat: A cute cat holding a computer mice by the cord. (Default)
From: [personal profile] akacat
Thing is, wise man/shaman types are usually seen as batshit crazy by everyone else around. So it's not mutually exclusive.

I *loved* Charlie + baby chasing after Sawyer. Funniest thing ever.

I'm expecting Sawyer's first baby in February.

Ok, I know Sawyer caused it. But since his genes weren't actually involved, would you consider having Sayid's baby instead?

Date: 2005-05-05 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trishalynn.livejournal.com
Mocker: Dude. The guy can't even follow directions in his user info. He's not worth your time.

Jin/Michael: I really really really want Jin and Michael to deeply bond over destinies and kids and building and being honest, simple folk. And if that means putting Sun in the middle to translate, all the better.

BTW, did you see the 20/20 promo for their Lost-centric piece? Why shouldn't the Asian guy be surprised that women think he's hot?

Date: 2005-05-05 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I'm just vastly amused that I'm near wank. I'm never anywhere near wank. :)

Date: 2005-05-05 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ficangel.livejournal.com
Sawyer being terrified of the bitty baby Turnip-head was one of the most priceless things I've seen in a long while.

Also, I'm kind of perversely proud of Shannon. I think Locke's calmness in this ep after the thought of killing Boone wrecked him so thoroughly in 1.19 is hint of bad, bad things on the horizon, and at some point the lostaways are going to think nostalgically of the time when they could have just let Shannon shoot the guy.

Also, Sayid is love, just because the universe keeps knocking him down and he keeps getting up and trying to be a good man in spite of it.

Date: 2005-05-05 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lots42.livejournal.com
They're too busy working on the raft to find lurve in each other's arms commiserate about women.

Date: 2005-05-05 02:00 pm (UTC)
fyrdrakken: (Cynical)
From: [personal profile] fyrdrakken
One interesting thing is that Sayid apparently had something else in common with Jack, in that both were apparently bringing a body home to wherever. Or did "claiming" Sayid's friend's body just mean, "I'm taking responsibility for having it buried right here in Sydney"?

Date: 2005-05-05 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diannelamerc.livejournal.com
FWIW, that's how I read it. His next stop was clearly L.A., so why drag it with him. Sydney was where his bud had made his new life. I think Sayid simply saw him decently buried there.

Date: 2005-05-05 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storydivagirl.livejournal.com
I enjoyed reading the fanfic is pathetic line of thought - especially when the girl then said, "it's not that you are pathetic." Huh?

And whatever. I know a ton of writers who partake in fanfiction and are published writers with novels and the like. (One day I will join those ranks...hopefully soon...) so to say they are unimaginative? Oh well.

Date: 2005-05-05 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonwhishes.livejournal.com
When I saw Hurley singing to Beeezlebabeee I nearly laughed so hard I passed out.

Charlie chasing aftre Sawyer was hilarious.

All in all, I think Walt was actually being very smart this week. He was shoving all the things that'll probably happen right out in the open.

P.S. Is GYAH a good word/noise or a bad word noise?

Date: 2005-05-05 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
All in all, I think Walt was actually being very smart this week. He was shoving all the things that'll probably happen right out in the open.

Oh, yes. He's saying the same things I've been saying every since they started building that raft.

P.S. Is GYAH a good word/noise or a bad word noise?

It's a little bit of both, actually. It's the four-letter equivalent of "OMGWTFBBQSAUCE and hot fudge with caramel topping and an extra dose of OMGWTFBBQSAUCE". :)

Date: 2005-05-05 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonwhishes.livejournal.com
Aaah, I see.

I'd ignore the wankers. I think you write wonderfully. I read that one story you wrote: the one Sixth Sense/Day AFter Tomorrow type crossover, and I rather liked it.

Date: 2005-05-05 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juniper200.livejournal.com
>>>just for thinking that would calm a baby, ten points to Gryffindor.>>>

But Hurley's a Hufflepuff!

Aw, man, we're going to have to write a Craphole Island Sorting, aren't we?

*sigh*

I'll get cracking on the song.

Date: 2005-05-08 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trishalynn.livejournal.com
Here are my predictions:

Locke, Sawyer, Walt, Shannon and Kate are in Slytherin.

Hurley, Charlie and Clare are in Hufflepuff.

Sun and Michael are in Ravenclaw.

Which leaves Jack, Charlie, Boone and Jin to be Gryffindors.

I think that works out just nicely, don't you?

Date: 2005-05-08 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trishalynn.livejournal.com
Whoops. Sorted Charlie twice. Fuck it, he's a Hufflepuff.

Date: 2005-05-08 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juniper200.livejournal.com
When and [livejournal.com profile] hannahrorlove I were Sorting them the other night, we put Charlie in Griffindor on account of his loyalty being accompanied by occasional rash acts of bravery. A Hufflepuff strikes me as less likely to be a risk-taker.

Date: 2005-05-09 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trishalynn.livejournal.com
I put him in Hufflepuff because his rash acts of bravery only come about when he's put under serious stress and duress and not that they come naturally to him like they do with Harry, Hermoine or even Neville. He's been pushed to both greatness and downfall by so many people in his life.

Date: 2005-05-05 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitter-ninja.livejournal.com
People who complain about fanfic are so irritating. If they don't like it, then don't read it. And the lady who keeps saying that certain authors are "better" because they are taught in college is a Supreme Wanker (tm). Some people don't have enough to worry about.

Date: 2005-05-05 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agilebrit.livejournal.com
Heh. For someone who claims he "doesn't read fanfiction," the guy sure seems to have a lot of opinions about it.

Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap. That goes for fanfic as well as original fic. Thing is, we don't see the crap original fic because it doesn't get published (um, usually).

But for someone to state that "fanfic writers are pathetic," when they spend their free time covering other bands' music and cross-stitching patterns created by other people, is just...mind-boggling. Because, dude, any hobby can be mocked. Really.

Date: 2005-05-05 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tal125.livejournal.com
This is what I have a problem with from the wife's userbio:

I believe very strongly in the importance of individual liberty, The Constitution, The Bill of Rights, and civil rights. [snip] I have a few causes that are extremely important to me including: breastfeeding, alternative forms of parenting, the right to be left alone in my lifestyle choices, breast cancer and eating disorders activism.

This person feels so strongly for the rights of individual liberty but has no problem with calling someone else's actions as pathetic. I guess she should amend her profile to read "I believe very strongly in the importance of MY liberty. The Constitution as it applies to ME, MY Bill of Rights and MY civil rights."

Asshat.

Sorry for intruding Trollprincess. :(

Date: 2005-05-06 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foresthouse.livejournal.com
Hah - so I'm not the only one who was like, "Is it me or does it get dark and rainy every time there's a standoff with a gun?"

Also? I totally agree about Sawyer. "My ovaries are pulsing. For YOU, Sawyer." (http://www.livejournal.com/users/foresthouse/200277.html?thread=579669#t579669)

Date: 2005-05-07 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedusor.livejournal.com
Sorry, but not knowing what you're going to name your kid when it's born is one of my baby-naming pet peeves, along with juniors and seniors, names that aren't actually names, and names you should know damn well will get your kid's ass kicked on a playground.

My mom claims that you have to meet the kid and get to know him/her before you can choose a name that fits. That may be bullshit, but it stopped me from being named Elsa, so I'm not complaining.

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