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– Sir Ian McKellen (talking on Teletext.co.uk)
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chaos_pockets said. Give that man a screenwriting program and let him write X3.
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I think I've figured Jordan's 4400 ability. The man has some sort of pheremone-secreting, hypnotizing cock. There's got to be a reason for the fact that the man can be slashed with anyone who crosses his path other than the fact that Billy Campbell could have sexual chemistry with a mailbox.
Anyway.
Isabelle is really, really starting to scare me. I mean, she didn't even get a chance to do anything in this episode aside from be infinitely than you and she still creeps me out. It's the effect she's got on both Richard and Lilly that's bothering me. She's influencing Lilly's decisions and ... well, she's doing the same thing with Richard, but in an entirely different way. Whatever she's doing is screwing up their entire relationship, and it's making me wonder whether ot not she's meant to do that. (And the promo shows Jordan touching her next week. I'll bet any money nothing happens when he does touch her, 'cause that would just start up a whole new mystery.)
Meanwhile, off at the 4400 Center, this episode really did a number on my Devon hatred. I mean, I really dislike her when she's all dolled up in her Lady Deathstrike costume for work, but seeing her all messed up and tired at home like that really did a lot to make me sympathize. Not only that, but tonight I saw sparks of Shawn/Devon and I so did not need to see that. Because a part of me would have no problem with that at all.
Also, ACK. Jordan is leaving everything to Shawn. Oh, that is seriously not good. In fact, that is so obviously a death sentence for him, I just ... ACK. He's going to die and leave everything to Shawn and it's suddenly going to become a problem of why the Powers That Will Be would give him power, influence, a neverending bank account, and healing abilities beyond modern medicine, and what he's going to do with that well of power at his fingertips. He means well, but something like that could screw a person up and fast.
Back at the A-plot, the whole thing with Trent and his liver just makes me wonder. I mean, okay, they can synthesize it to use it for destroying toxic waste and fixing the ozone layer and stuff, but I don't doubt they can find a way to use it to make some sort of safe weight loss treatment that doesn't make you starve to death. The comment Tom made about his daughter going to college to study chemistry made me think, too. 'Cause seriously, wouldn't it be sort of par for the course for this series if the things she learned later on in life as a scientist after going to school for chemistry were used to change her father's liver like that? It makes sense in an odd sort of way.
It also brings up the thought I had about the show after I read the comment on the post I made last week, about how what was done to these people was like what was done by Mengele to the people in his "care" during WWII. If the Powers That Will Be are really our own descendents in the future trying to save us like they said, then the flaw in the comparison is that this isn't the thinly veiled torture that Mengele was involved in. It's more like handing off weapons to the few in an attempt to save the many. Is it possible someone will shoot themselves in the foot? Of course. The thing is, if these are our descendents doing this, maybe the guy needs to shoot himself in the foot. Maybe he has to lame himself so he can go to the doctor's and fall in love with his physical therapist. The Powers That Will Be aren't putting acid in people's eyes in an attempt to change their eye color or putting them naked in a freezing cold field overnight to see what they can handle. They're handing them weapons that they know well, presumably experience on a daily basis, and see as gifts rather than burdens. They probably don't see the problem with being telepathic like Gary anymore, because they've developed the drugs to combat the worst side effects. (Or, to bring the whole thing full-circle for that ripple effect, maybe they needed Gary to be telepathic and sent him back specifically so those drugs would have to be developed.)
Look at it like this. If we had a way to go back to medieval times and save certain people with a vaccine against the bubonic plague, and doing so would vastly improve the quality of life on our planet right now, would it be right? And it's not exactly something you can ask permission for, because it'd be so far out of the realm of experience for these people. "Hi, I know you're just a lowly, uneducated serf on a crappy farm, but we'd really like to stick a needle into you and inject you with this stuff that will keep you from getting the plague. Is that okay?" They wouldn't be able to say, "Hell, NO!" fast enough, even if we knew it was for their own sake (and ours) and explained as much.
It goes back to what sorta-Kyle said last year. A lot of what I don't buy about Kyle's lakeside message at the end of last season is that I don't think that the world is destroyed and they've tried to save it by sending everybody back. I think it could have been destroyed, but it wasn't because the 4400 were sent back. There is just way too much about the way the 4400's actions result in specific outcomes that impact the planet on a greater scale that just don't seem like they could be randomly guessed at. "Well, if we take this guy and put him back when his wife's about to die, he has nothing, and his boss's son won't give him his old job back, he might go to the son's home and shatter the guy's skull." There's a really good chance if we do this, something might happen? I'm not buying it, not with the results they've shown so far.
What I do think is that they told Tom that because they wanted him to think that. And then he goes back and tells NTAC and it gets leaked to Jordan and Jordan writes the book and now everybody knows what he's been told -- that the 4400 will save mankind. It goes back to that plague comparison. If we took a few people, inoculated them, and sent them back in a way which made it impossible to ignore their taking, how do we keep them from being burned at the stake? Oh, I don't know. Maybe tell a reliable person that (considering the time period) God has saved them for something vital and they must be protected at all costs?
Does that mean the Powers That Will Be don't have a malevolent intent? Nah, they probably do. But still. ;)
Also, Kyle's losing chunks of time. I call the Powers That Will Be keeping a tenuous grasp on access to his brain just in case they have to manipulate things to go their way and somebody screws up, so they have to send in their little easily-controlled formerly comatose foot soldier to clean up. Hee. Let's see if I can work my Desperate Housewives theorizing magic on this fandom. :)
In other news, can we keep Eric? He's cuddly, and his roly-poly pregnant wife is like a pretty little puppy. *cuddles them*
– Sir Ian McKellen (talking on Teletext.co.uk)
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chaos_pockets said. Give that man a screenwriting program and let him write X3.********
I think I've figured Jordan's 4400 ability. The man has some sort of pheremone-secreting, hypnotizing cock. There's got to be a reason for the fact that the man can be slashed with anyone who crosses his path other than the fact that Billy Campbell could have sexual chemistry with a mailbox.
Anyway.
Isabelle is really, really starting to scare me. I mean, she didn't even get a chance to do anything in this episode aside from be infinitely than you and she still creeps me out. It's the effect she's got on both Richard and Lilly that's bothering me. She's influencing Lilly's decisions and ... well, she's doing the same thing with Richard, but in an entirely different way. Whatever she's doing is screwing up their entire relationship, and it's making me wonder whether ot not she's meant to do that. (And the promo shows Jordan touching her next week. I'll bet any money nothing happens when he does touch her, 'cause that would just start up a whole new mystery.)
Meanwhile, off at the 4400 Center, this episode really did a number on my Devon hatred. I mean, I really dislike her when she's all dolled up in her Lady Deathstrike costume for work, but seeing her all messed up and tired at home like that really did a lot to make me sympathize. Not only that, but tonight I saw sparks of Shawn/Devon and I so did not need to see that. Because a part of me would have no problem with that at all.
Also, ACK. Jordan is leaving everything to Shawn. Oh, that is seriously not good. In fact, that is so obviously a death sentence for him, I just ... ACK. He's going to die and leave everything to Shawn and it's suddenly going to become a problem of why the Powers That Will Be would give him power, influence, a neverending bank account, and healing abilities beyond modern medicine, and what he's going to do with that well of power at his fingertips. He means well, but something like that could screw a person up and fast.
Back at the A-plot, the whole thing with Trent and his liver just makes me wonder. I mean, okay, they can synthesize it to use it for destroying toxic waste and fixing the ozone layer and stuff, but I don't doubt they can find a way to use it to make some sort of safe weight loss treatment that doesn't make you starve to death. The comment Tom made about his daughter going to college to study chemistry made me think, too. 'Cause seriously, wouldn't it be sort of par for the course for this series if the things she learned later on in life as a scientist after going to school for chemistry were used to change her father's liver like that? It makes sense in an odd sort of way.
It also brings up the thought I had about the show after I read the comment on the post I made last week, about how what was done to these people was like what was done by Mengele to the people in his "care" during WWII. If the Powers That Will Be are really our own descendents in the future trying to save us like they said, then the flaw in the comparison is that this isn't the thinly veiled torture that Mengele was involved in. It's more like handing off weapons to the few in an attempt to save the many. Is it possible someone will shoot themselves in the foot? Of course. The thing is, if these are our descendents doing this, maybe the guy needs to shoot himself in the foot. Maybe he has to lame himself so he can go to the doctor's and fall in love with his physical therapist. The Powers That Will Be aren't putting acid in people's eyes in an attempt to change their eye color or putting them naked in a freezing cold field overnight to see what they can handle. They're handing them weapons that they know well, presumably experience on a daily basis, and see as gifts rather than burdens. They probably don't see the problem with being telepathic like Gary anymore, because they've developed the drugs to combat the worst side effects. (Or, to bring the whole thing full-circle for that ripple effect, maybe they needed Gary to be telepathic and sent him back specifically so those drugs would have to be developed.)
Look at it like this. If we had a way to go back to medieval times and save certain people with a vaccine against the bubonic plague, and doing so would vastly improve the quality of life on our planet right now, would it be right? And it's not exactly something you can ask permission for, because it'd be so far out of the realm of experience for these people. "Hi, I know you're just a lowly, uneducated serf on a crappy farm, but we'd really like to stick a needle into you and inject you with this stuff that will keep you from getting the plague. Is that okay?" They wouldn't be able to say, "Hell, NO!" fast enough, even if we knew it was for their own sake (and ours) and explained as much.
It goes back to what sorta-Kyle said last year. A lot of what I don't buy about Kyle's lakeside message at the end of last season is that I don't think that the world is destroyed and they've tried to save it by sending everybody back. I think it could have been destroyed, but it wasn't because the 4400 were sent back. There is just way too much about the way the 4400's actions result in specific outcomes that impact the planet on a greater scale that just don't seem like they could be randomly guessed at. "Well, if we take this guy and put him back when his wife's about to die, he has nothing, and his boss's son won't give him his old job back, he might go to the son's home and shatter the guy's skull." There's a really good chance if we do this, something might happen? I'm not buying it, not with the results they've shown so far.
What I do think is that they told Tom that because they wanted him to think that. And then he goes back and tells NTAC and it gets leaked to Jordan and Jordan writes the book and now everybody knows what he's been told -- that the 4400 will save mankind. It goes back to that plague comparison. If we took a few people, inoculated them, and sent them back in a way which made it impossible to ignore their taking, how do we keep them from being burned at the stake? Oh, I don't know. Maybe tell a reliable person that (considering the time period) God has saved them for something vital and they must be protected at all costs?
Does that mean the Powers That Will Be don't have a malevolent intent? Nah, they probably do. But still. ;)
Also, Kyle's losing chunks of time. I call the Powers That Will Be keeping a tenuous grasp on access to his brain just in case they have to manipulate things to go their way and somebody screws up, so they have to send in their little easily-controlled formerly comatose foot soldier to clean up. Hee. Let's see if I can work my Desperate Housewives theorizing magic on this fandom. :)
In other news, can we keep Eric? He's cuddly, and his roly-poly pregnant wife is like a pretty little puppy. *cuddles them*
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Date: 2005-06-20 03:05 am (UTC)Wouldn't that be fun. hehee
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Date: 2005-06-20 03:14 am (UTC)Works for me!
And yes, of course I had to read your spoilers. I have to wait till the 11 or midnight rerun to get my fix. (We seriously need more than one TV in this house, but it's not like we ever really watch it that much ... )
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Date: 2005-06-20 05:21 am (UTC)– Sir Ian McKellen (talking on Teletext.co.uk)
Wow, I... *brain explodes with glee*
Huh. So *this* is what it *really* feels like to have an orgasm inside your head.
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Date: 2005-06-20 02:15 pm (UTC)He is the gaylord of my heart.
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