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You know what pisses me off the most about Independence Day? It's the fact that when the Americans finally come up with a viable counteroffensive and send it by Morse code to everybody else on the planet, everybody else is like, "Oh, thank GOD. We've been waiting for the Americans to come up with something!" It's not that the Americans do it, it's the attitude that bugs me. (Granted, there's lots of things in this movie meant to be annoying, but still.)

But what makes up for it is Adam Baldwin in a military uniform. Between this and Firefly, it's confirmation that Adam Baldwin holding a gun is one of the sexiest things ever. :)

Date: 2005-07-04 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladynaberrie.livejournal.com
Yeah, that part pissed me off, too.

Wait, Adam Baldwin? Holding a gun? Where!

Date: 2005-07-04 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spyderqueen.livejournal.com
Shooting at the glass the alien is against.

It's pretty fuckin' hot.

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Date: 2005-07-04 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
He's the clean-shaven hottie escorting the President around Area 51 when he first arrives. He also shoots the alien who attacks Brent Spiner in the operating room. Oh, and he shoots the soda can off the spaceship in that one scene.

Adam Baldwin and a gun is some of the best porn out there. GAH.

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Date: 2005-07-04 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spyderqueen.livejournal.com
See, I have a little thing that drives me nuts in that movie.

Our heroes driving into DC on Southbound 95 with no traffic while Northbound is completely clogged. Honestly, a mass evacuation and the gov't will open Northbound to Southbound traffic.

Date: 2005-07-04 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceejayoz.livejournal.com
Unless Northbound is reserved for emergency and military vehicle use...

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Date: 2005-07-04 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Honestly. I was watching that part before giggling at the stupidity.

Date: 2005-07-04 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denial-girl.livejournal.com
Nothing new there. Did you know that America won WWII and freed Europe with the British Commonwealth all by themselves?

Date: 2005-07-04 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Well, remember what President Bush said. World War II didn't start until the Americans got into it. Mmm-hmm.

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Date: 2005-07-04 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 22by7.livejournal.com
what i find supremely irritating is how July 4 has to be the new Independence Day for the whole world.

i love the scene where the alien splorgs out of the dead casing thing and almost strangles someone. haha.

Date: 2005-07-04 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polaris-starz.livejournal.com
Actually, I think it does strangle someone. Poor scientist dude.

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Date: 2005-07-04 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matildarose.livejournal.com
Well, for an amusing counterpoint, look at anime. There, usually, the American military is the equivalent of a bull in a china shop.

Of course, you'd be too if your ally had sleek man-robots piloted by prepubescent Japanese kids fighting off the invasion.

Date: 2005-07-04 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spyderqueen.livejournal.com
Quite frankly most militaries in anime are the bull in a china shop.

Date: 2005-07-04 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ltlj.livejournal.com
It was really annoying, considering how easy it would have been to show little snippets of scenes of scientists hiding in bunkers in different countries working frantically trying to come up with something. And it wouldn't have killed anybody to have the solution come from some random genius in the Ukraine or Japan or Botswana or someplace, either. It would really have added another dimension to the movie to make it feel like everybody all over the world was working on this one problem.

Date: 2005-07-04 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wal-lace.livejournal.com
... I've long wondered. Do they teach you guys in school that you only won Independence with major French assistance, or is that dropped by the wayside? I mean, they don't teach British schoolchildren that we actually lost the Hundred Years War, and so it would hardly be surprising...

Oh, and for the record? You lost the War of 1812. You won the Battle of New Orleans, but you emphatically lost the war.

Date: 2005-07-04 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Well, I remember learning it, but I was a good student, and aside from me, the only people I know for a fact who remember the French have seen The Patriot one too many times, as in my mother.

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Date: 2005-07-04 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebness.livejournal.com
Well, given that the Americans solved the Enigma Code, were behind the escape from Colditz and were alone in the D-Day landings, I guess we Europeans have no right to criticise... ;)

Date: 2005-07-04 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wal-lace.livejournal.com
No, no, Dougray Scott solved the Enigma Code. He just wouldn't have been able to if it hadn't been for those brave Americans who retrieved the code books from U-571.

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Date: 2005-07-04 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackgarden.livejournal.com
Between this and Firefly, it's confirmation that Adam Baldwin holding a gun is one of the sexiest things ever.

What about Full Metal Jacket?

FMJ has been retroactively retconned

Date: 2005-07-04 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aexia.livejournal.com
to be about Jayne in his youth before he was injured and put into cyrosleep only to be awakened with no memory in the distant future of Firefly.

Date: 2005-07-04 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mike-smith.livejournal.com
It's been like years since I've seen the movie, but I think my impression of the Morse Code scene was that everyone was like "It's about time _somebody_ came up with something," rather than the Americans in particular. But I could be mistaken.

No, my bigger beef was that suddenly everyone in the world not only knows Morse Code, but the English neccesary to comprehend the decoded instructions. Yeah, China probably _had_ some people who could translate it, but after two days of the aliens blowing everything up I find it hard to believe those kinds of resources would still be readily available.

Date: 2005-07-04 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
It could have gone either way, I suppose, although the fact that they're focusing on the Americans for the most part doesn't exactly help my perception.

Of course, it's not as Armageddon, which doesn't focus on the Americans but still makes me want to hit someone upside the head during the celebration following the destruction. YAY! Watch as we show you happy midwestern Americans still stuck in the Dust Bowl in the 1930s!

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Date: 2005-07-04 06:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] thedivinegoat.livejournal.com
They did a radio version over here called Independence Day UK, which told the story from the RAF side of things. It was pretty good fun, especially if not taken seriously, and starred Toyah Wilcox, Colin Baker and Patrick Moore. (It also featured Peter Serafinowicz)

Classic Quote - "EITHER I'M CONCUSSED, OR I'M WATCHING PATRICK MOORE FISTFIGHTING WITH AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL!"

Date: 2005-07-04 06:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] phoebesmum.livejournal.com
The British couldn't have helped, there were only three of them and they were sitting in the desert with a couple of Sopwith Camels or something. We're so behind the times. But Jeff Goldblum cleverly saved us with an oh-so-witty War of the Worlds update, so everything was well. And Bill Pullman made a speech that basically went "I am the King of all Cheeseland!" and everybody laughed. Or maybe it was just everyone in the cinema I was in.

Date: 2005-07-04 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixiewildfire.livejournal.com
I always enjoy that part, that's possibly because I was an army brat for most of my life (until like 6 years ago).

Adam is God.

Date: 2005-07-04 06:51 pm (UTC)

Date: 2005-07-04 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimera.livejournal.com
But what makes up for it is Adam Baldwin in a military uniform.

Hell yes. Mmmm.

Date: 2005-07-04 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wenchamok.livejournal.com
But what makes up for it is Adam Baldwin in a military uniform. Between this and Firefly, it's confirmation that Adam Baldwin holding a gun is one of the sexiest things ever. :)

Have you been watching The Inside? A weekly dose of Adam Baldwin in a G-man suit with an occasional helping of SWAT gear and automatic weapons.....

Date: 2005-07-05 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kassandra05.livejournal.com
Adam Baldwin... suit... SWAT gear... automatic weapons...

Why have I never heard of this show!?

*looks it up, marks calendar*

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Date: 2005-07-04 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smallship1.livejournal.com
>Adam Baldwin holding a gun is one of the sexiest things ever. :)

Um, can I just say that my mileage varies. A lot.

And can anyone explain to me these posters and standees and things saying "Will Smith is Hitch"? I know he's a decent actor and all, but he doesn't look a bit like Alfred Hitchcock...

Date: 2005-07-05 01:41 am (UTC)

Date: 2005-07-05 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamt.livejournal.com
I get all those 'on noes alien invading' movies mixed up as there was a damn wave of them. However I'll assume it was Independance Day where my biggest pet peeve ever was the scene where everyone around the world is celebrating.
All at the same time, yay we won! Celebrations in the sun.
Yup. Daytime. Every.Fucking.Where.
Apparently the whole world is on US time. Who knew! =P

Date: 2005-07-05 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muffytaj.livejournal.com
It's either downtown Tokyo or the U.S. No proper alien would ever attack anywhere else!

Dammit if *I* were an alien I'd start out in third world countries, gain a good food source there of nummy scrawny diseased children, and because the Powers That Be never pay any fucking attention to the starving brats unless they need a charity to unload on for tax cuts, I (the alien) could build up my troops, before launching a full scale war from my new base.

This would also mean I could attack from multiple points at once, concerntrating my attacks on critical areas which I would have identified during my first few years on earth.

Russia, India and China would probably be the first three to get pulled under. Americans can't seem to co-operate enough to get anything done fast - you can bet there would be people demanding to convert alien!me to christianity, or even worshipping the invasion as the Second Coming, so by the time I've taken out all possible allies they still won't have come up with a good plan.

Dammit, I haven't figured out how to get a bus to the city yet and I've got this plan, any aliens would have travelled millions of light years and they make the mistake of letting all the big blue-eyed kiddies with their yappy doggies live!

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