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You know what pisses me off the most about Independence Day? It's the fact that when the Americans finally come up with a viable counteroffensive and send it by Morse code to everybody else on the planet, everybody else is like, "Oh, thank GOD. We've been waiting for the Americans to come up with something!" It's not that the Americans do it, it's the attitude that bugs me. (Granted, there's lots of things in this movie meant to be annoying, but still.)

But what makes up for it is Adam Baldwin in a military uniform. Between this and Firefly, it's confirmation that Adam Baldwin holding a gun is one of the sexiest things ever. :)
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Date: 2005-07-04 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladynaberrie.livejournal.com
Yeah, that part pissed me off, too.

Wait, Adam Baldwin? Holding a gun? Where!

Date: 2005-07-04 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spyderqueen.livejournal.com
See, I have a little thing that drives me nuts in that movie.

Our heroes driving into DC on Southbound 95 with no traffic while Northbound is completely clogged. Honestly, a mass evacuation and the gov't will open Northbound to Southbound traffic.

Date: 2005-07-04 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spyderqueen.livejournal.com
Shooting at the glass the alien is against.

It's pretty fuckin' hot.

Date: 2005-07-04 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denial-girl.livejournal.com
Nothing new there. Did you know that America won WWII and freed Europe with the British Commonwealth all by themselves?

Date: 2005-07-04 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceejayoz.livejournal.com
Unless Northbound is reserved for emergency and military vehicle use...

Date: 2005-07-04 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 22by7.livejournal.com
what i find supremely irritating is how July 4 has to be the new Independence Day for the whole world.

i love the scene where the alien splorgs out of the dead casing thing and almost strangles someone. haha.

Date: 2005-07-04 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
He's the clean-shaven hottie escorting the President around Area 51 when he first arrives. He also shoots the alien who attacks Brent Spiner in the operating room. Oh, and he shoots the soda can off the spaceship in that one scene.

Adam Baldwin and a gun is some of the best porn out there. GAH.

Date: 2005-07-04 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladynaberrie.livejournal.com
How did I miss this in my marathon of movies to keep me from sleeping last night? How?

Date: 2005-07-04 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Honestly. I was watching that part before giggling at the stupidity.

Date: 2005-07-04 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Well, remember what President Bush said. World War II didn't start until the Americans got into it. Mmm-hmm.

Date: 2005-07-04 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladynaberrie.livejournal.com
Adam Baldwin and a gun. *sigh*

Date: 2005-07-04 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Probably for the same reason I didn't know it was him until I was checking his IMDB profile once and said, "Holy crap, he was in Independence Day?!" And then I watched and said, "No goatee, different haircut, lookin' all cleancut and hot ... okay, now I get why I missed it."

Date: 2005-07-04 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladynaberrie.livejournal.com
Okay, feel better. Iwas set to blame it on sleep deprivation.

Date: 2005-07-04 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matildarose.livejournal.com
Well, for an amusing counterpoint, look at anime. There, usually, the American military is the equivalent of a bull in a china shop.

Of course, you'd be too if your ally had sleek man-robots piloted by prepubescent Japanese kids fighting off the invasion.

Date: 2005-07-04 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spyderqueen.livejournal.com
It's a 4 lane highway. They'd at least use SOME of the lanes.

Date: 2005-07-04 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ltlj.livejournal.com
It was really annoying, considering how easy it would have been to show little snippets of scenes of scientists hiding in bunkers in different countries working frantically trying to come up with something. And it wouldn't have killed anybody to have the solution come from some random genius in the Ukraine or Japan or Botswana or someplace, either. It would really have added another dimension to the movie to make it feel like everybody all over the world was working on this one problem.

Date: 2005-07-04 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spyderqueen.livejournal.com
Quite frankly most militaries in anime are the bull in a china shop.

Date: 2005-07-04 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myniamh.livejournal.com
Brent Spiner? omg it was too! *is so dense*

Date: 2005-07-04 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wal-lace.livejournal.com
... I've long wondered. Do they teach you guys in school that you only won Independence with major French assistance, or is that dropped by the wayside? I mean, they don't teach British schoolchildren that we actually lost the Hundred Years War, and so it would hardly be surprising...

Oh, and for the record? You lost the War of 1812. You won the Battle of New Orleans, but you emphatically lost the war.

Date: 2005-07-04 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polaris-starz.livejournal.com
Actually, I think it does strangle someone. Poor scientist dude.

Date: 2005-07-04 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebness.livejournal.com
Well, given that the Americans solved the Enigma Code, were behind the escape from Colditz and were alone in the D-Day landings, I guess we Europeans have no right to criticise... ;)

Date: 2005-07-04 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Well, I remember learning it, but I was a good student, and aside from me, the only people I know for a fact who remember the French have seen The Patriot one too many times, as in my mother.

Date: 2005-07-04 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polaris-starz.livejournal.com
They did talk about it, actually, when they were teaching us about the Revolution. It made me gleeful. My teacher was all, "Yeah, the Americans would've lost if they hadn't been able to convince the French to help by winnng [I forget what battle, bad history geek. *headdesk*]".

Date: 2005-07-04 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wal-lace.livejournal.com
No, no, Dougray Scott solved the Enigma Code. He just wouldn't have been able to if it hadn't been for those brave Americans who retrieved the code books from U-571.

Date: 2005-07-04 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebness.livejournal.com
Didn't you know? The French have always preferred cheese and surrendering over helping anyone out or winning wars. The French Resistance was headed by a coalition of Will Smith and John Wayne. Hell, the 1789 revolution wasn't partly due to a financial crisis through helping out America... I think it was all down to a Brie/Camembert showdown, or something.

(Still, with some of the history we Brits are taught, we can't really say much... erk.)
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