Repeating this for my own reference.
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janissa11's LJ.
It feels to me like Kripke is, to use her words, changing horses in midstream.
What John said to Dean ... it's awfully generic, isn't it? "Kill him if you can't protect him," basically. It feels a lot like a letdown, especially considering how much we expected to get revealed tonight. I know a lot of people weren't surprised that "Croatoan" cut off like it did, but come ON.
See, here's what I've been thinking for a while.
Kripke planned this from the very beginning with Sam turning out to be the child of the Demon. John was probably possessed or the Demon took the form of John or Mary actively cheated on John with the Demon -- whatever. But from the beginning the big thing was supposed to be "Sam is the Demon's son." And maybe he thought he was being edgy or something and thought, "No one will ever figure it out!"
And then he went on the internet or ran into fans or something and ... hey, everyone figured it out.
And a LOT of people weren't thrilled with the prospect of Sam not being John's son at ALL.
Uh-oh.
So, new plan. Everybody's expecting Sam to be half-demon. Fine, we'll do something else. But we have all this set-up! And we've filmed a bunch of stuff and -- okay, we don't know what we're going to do specifically, but we have a general idea. So we'll just work with the general idea -- the Demon needs these kids, they have to turn bad, etc. -- and get specific about WHAT they are later.
Can we do that?
OF COURSE we can do that! I know we were going to have this great big reveal after "Croatoan" but we'll do something else.
What something else?
Later, damn it. For now, just write with this in mind -- "Sam might be a threat someday."
Excuse me, but isn't hand-to-hand-combat, breaking-and-entering, caliber-identifying, ass-kicking Sam a threat now?
SILENCE! I HAVE SPOKEN. Now get me a muffin and some truffles and a pinata!
Uh, why?
NEVER QUESTION ME! PARTICULARLY ABOUT JARED'S COCK.
... er, perhaps I should not script out episodes of "Everyone in Hollywood is deranged" in my head.
I'm probably wrong about the whole thing, but ... well, that's the way it feels to me. Like they're going to Canada from Texas and avoiding the snowstorm in the Rockies by driving through Mississippi instead.
janissa11's LJ.It feels to me like Kripke is, to use her words, changing horses in midstream.
What John said to Dean ... it's awfully generic, isn't it? "Kill him if you can't protect him," basically. It feels a lot like a letdown, especially considering how much we expected to get revealed tonight. I know a lot of people weren't surprised that "Croatoan" cut off like it did, but come ON.
See, here's what I've been thinking for a while.
Kripke planned this from the very beginning with Sam turning out to be the child of the Demon. John was probably possessed or the Demon took the form of John or Mary actively cheated on John with the Demon -- whatever. But from the beginning the big thing was supposed to be "Sam is the Demon's son." And maybe he thought he was being edgy or something and thought, "No one will ever figure it out!"
And then he went on the internet or ran into fans or something and ... hey, everyone figured it out.
And a LOT of people weren't thrilled with the prospect of Sam not being John's son at ALL.
Uh-oh.
So, new plan. Everybody's expecting Sam to be half-demon. Fine, we'll do something else. But we have all this set-up! And we've filmed a bunch of stuff and -- okay, we don't know what we're going to do specifically, but we have a general idea. So we'll just work with the general idea -- the Demon needs these kids, they have to turn bad, etc. -- and get specific about WHAT they are later.
Can we do that?
OF COURSE we can do that! I know we were going to have this great big reveal after "Croatoan" but we'll do something else.
What something else?
Later, damn it. For now, just write with this in mind -- "Sam might be a threat someday."
Excuse me, but isn't hand-to-hand-combat, breaking-and-entering, caliber-identifying, ass-kicking Sam a threat now?
SILENCE! I HAVE SPOKEN. Now get me a muffin and some truffles and a pinata!
Uh, why?
NEVER QUESTION ME! PARTICULARLY ABOUT JARED'S COCK.
... er, perhaps I should not script out episodes of "Everyone in Hollywood is deranged" in my head.
I'm probably wrong about the whole thing, but ... well, that's the way it feels to me. Like they're going to Canada from Texas and avoiding the snowstorm in the Rockies by driving through Mississippi instead.
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Date: 2007-01-12 05:59 am (UTC)And yeah, it's not a death sentence, but Sam's already shown he's immune to that demonic virus. It's not exactly a scientific study but if I were Dean I'd be thinking that it's a good sign that Sam can't be possessed. A possession, he can deal with. You say some Latin, you sprinkle some holy water, the demon's gone. But what if you can't get rid of the demon that's in your brother's body?
Last words or not, they just seem wrong as something profound out of John. I mean, I can get why they might haunt Dean -- Dean's all about protecting Sammy -- but I still think there's something else John didn't tell Dean. That can't be the whole truth John told the Demon he knew.
I can see Sam being pissed that Dean lied about John's last words. But that pissed about those last words? From the same guy who only a few short hours before his death was telling his son to shoot him to kill the Demon? I just have a REALLY hard time that Sam would be surprised John would tell Dean that. It feels way off to me.