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So, I've been trying to read this Feministing post about the new Sarah Connor Chronicles poster featuring Summer Glau (or at least part of her) in what could be taken as an antifeminist pose if it weren't for a few basic things.

The main one being: SHE'S A FUCKING CYBORG.

She's not "disembodied" -- she's being built. (I imagine she'd look a hell of a lot worse if she were torn apart by something.) Of course she's not wearing a shirt -- strangely enough, they don't actually build cyborgs with shirts on them already. Of course her hair is long enough to cover her nipples -- it's a fucking poster, and the character has to have long hair to fit into a high school setting where having super-short hair would probably get her more attention (none of it good), and it's not like she needs to have short hair to help in fights anyway. (Now the length of Sarah's hair ... that we can have a looooong discussion about.)

And I'd knock the whole putting-a-half-naked-chick-on-a-poster thing, except ... hey, guess what? Everybody in the Terminator mythos gets to be naked! Hell, at this point the only one who's made it through fully clothed is John, for crying out loud. The only reason Terminators give a shit about clothes is to fit in with humans. They don't need them, because --as I said -- they're fucking cyborgs.

Aside from the fact that the poster is fairly unoriginal and I could have sworn the whole Summer-being-a-Terminator thing was still supposed to be a secret, I have no problem with that poster.

In summation, I refuse to apologize for liking the third movie. And also, you can see Robert Patrick's cock in the second movie if you pay attention.

Ahem.

Date: 2007-11-25 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shinga.livejournal.com
I could have sworn the whole Summer-being-a-Terminator thing was still supposed to be a secret

The trailer I saw the other day had her saying something along the lines of "I'm here to protect you" so I think it's gonna be obvious from the beginning or something.

Date: 2007-11-25 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know at one point they were really touchy about letting it get out but I guess they've given up or something.

Date: 2007-11-25 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wtfbrain.livejournal.com
Oh, gods, make the stupid stop! Man, people will latch onto anything if they think it furthers their "cause."

*headdesk repeatedly*

Date: 2007-11-25 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I just ... I'm willing to call something exploitative for whipping off a woman's clothes for no particular reason, but this entire series is the main reason I still have the image of Arnold's frighteningly naked ass burned into my brain. ALL of the Terminators we've seen have had to get naked, and Kyle as well. Hi, that's how they HAVE to time-travel.

Date: 2007-11-25 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madripoor-rose.livejournal.com
Nods. Just makes you want to shake the commenters until the context sinks in. It's not a partially naked dismembered woman. It's a robot covered with vat-skin being constructed. Not to mention how pro feminist the Terminator series actually is, with Sarah Connor going from victim to first leader of the rebellion.

Date: 2007-11-25 11:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] eisoj5
And also, you can see Robert Patrick's cock in the second movie if you pay attention.

WHEREWHERE?!?!?

Date: 2007-11-25 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girl-wonder.livejournal.com
Dude, I totally loved the third movie.

Date: 2007-11-26 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fakymcfakerson.livejournal.com
I think it's well-intentioned, but taken out of context., I betcha someone sent that in and said "OMG OBJECTIFICATION," and Feministing said "whoa yeah!" and didn't take context into account- because a lot of advertising/crap they get sent doesn't have context, so they don't need to look.

A lot of the comments on that page are also supportive of your "but she's a fucking cyborg," stance, and usually Feministing commenters are pretty rah-rah, so... I think it's just knee-jerk shortsightedness on her part, and she may even take it back later (but doubtful- because I don't think I've ever seen her make a "whoops!" post). I usually quite like Feministing, so that's what I choose to believe.

Date: 2007-11-26 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fakymcfakerson.livejournal.com
Oh, dammnit. Pretend I closed that italics thingie, please. :(

Date: 2007-11-26 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nute.livejournal.com
Of course it's objectification. A robot is an object. QE-fucking-D.

Date: 2007-11-26 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyldemusick.livejournal.com
Hell, at this point the only one who's made it through fully clothed is John

Not after the pilot for TSCC.

Date: 2007-11-26 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] witchofthedogs.livejournal.com
SHE'S A FUCKING CYBORG.

This.

I rest my case... primarily, because you made it already.

Date: 2007-11-26 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rani23.livejournal.com
I dislike the poster cause it's kinda tacky.

Date: 2007-11-26 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I know, right? If you want to dislike it, dislike it because any idiot who's never made a sci-fi poster in their life would go right to that image.

Date: 2007-11-26 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rani23.livejournal.com
Exactly!! Hate it because it's dumb! :)

Date: 2007-11-26 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notrafficlights.livejournal.com
I look at that poster and think "Lol, Ghost In The Shell ripoff" and that's about it.

Now I want to watch the second movie again.

Date: 2007-11-26 03:32 am (UTC)
medie: queen elsa's grand entrance (hp - hermione - i call bullshit)
From: [personal profile] medie

Also, um, didn't RP accidentally like flash an entire train of people? I seem to remember a story about that. *G*

Oh my god, the stupid in some of these comments. *HEADDESK* Just. OMG.

Date: 2007-11-26 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I literally had to walk away from my computer before I flung it across the room at, "Since when is Sarah a T-series?"

Not enough headdesk in the world. Seriously.

Date: 2007-11-26 03:42 am (UTC)
medie: queen elsa's grand entrance (sga - teyla - wtf)
From: [personal profile] medie
Gah, I think my eyes glazed over before that part. Though the point where someone tried to bring in Transformers race wank was special. Just. GAH.

One person had this exceptionally well thought out comment. Then ruined it by adding another that decided, no the others were right because her breasts were sticking out despite her being held by the shoulders. Right. Clearly the poster must've been an A-Cup.

Seriously not enough headdesk in the world. SO NOT.

Date: 2007-11-26 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mimesere.livejournal.com
Re the um. Spoiler thing? Yeah. We were watching the pilot at Comic Con and it's all la la la teen drama stfu John you whiny douche and then there were GUNS and EXPLOSIONS and KNIVES and then! then! Summer Glau said, "Come with me if you want to live," and holy hell, the room *exploded* in applause and cheers. It rocked *that hard* when she did it. Because apparently everyone in that room knew that being a terminator meant being a stone badass.

So whatever, haters, I'm there with *bells on* for Summer Glau Beats Everyone Up Sarah Connor Chronicles.

Sometimes, seriously, I just feel like being all, "Y'all, not everything is about feminism. Some stuff is about *kicking ass* which, if I recall correctly, we all want to be a gender neutral occupation." And whatever, if I had to see Arnold's ass, I don't actually have a problem with seeing Summer's.

Date: 2007-11-26 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missnygma.livejournal.com
My sister liked the third movie also, so you are in good company.
I have no real problems with the poster. In fact I think I would have complained if she had had clothes on. Like you said everybody gets to be naked, and it would have seemed a lot more sexist if she was the only one who had to cover up.

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