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-- Niki is dead (probably), and the most I can summon is pity for poor Micah. First of all, they could have done so much more with her plotline, and instead it was the same recycled bullshit in two different seasons. And secondly, if she still had the virus, then how the hell was she managing to use her strength? You know what? Don't know, don't care, want to snuggle Micah.

-- Nathan's probably dead, although let's face it -- Heroes works like soaps. Unless you see a body, they're not dead, and even THEN. I'm sure Peter will remember, uh, DUH, I absorbed Claire's power, I can save Nathan, too. And I'm sure of it mostly because I'm figuring that the fan reaction to even the slightest hint of Nathan's death will not be pretty at all.

Noah was totally the one who shot him, though. Heh. More badass Noah, yes?

-- Oh, man, how much smarter does Mohinder look when Maya is in the same room? Then again, I think everybody's IQ skyrockets when she's around to compensate, like she's shooting spare brain cells out of her ears and people kind of have to pick them up like lint on a black coat.

Having said that, aw, man. Couldn't that shooting have stuck? Shove the bullet back in, Mohinder! We'll pretend we didn't notice the whole saving-her bit! Oh, well, you asked for it. Now you get to be the big strong man she makes doe-eyes at in an attempt to get someone with a dick to take care of her. (Um, I may be a little bitter. "Alejandro will take care of me! No, Gabriel will take care of me! Oh, Mohinder, you saved my life! *swoons*" Jesus, woman, what the hell?)

-- Dude. DUDE. Hiro's cold. I mean, Adam had some sort of revenge coming, but damn. That's hardcore.

-- Dear show, please don't get rid of West now that you've stopped writing him like a gravity-defying major in professional stalking.

-- You know, part of me thinks that the "Nathan announces his plan in Primatech" thing wasn't Nathan being an idiot (I mean, it's a vault full of sensitive materials and they wouldn't have a camera? COME ON) but the three of them setting up the press conference as a fakeout. I'm not the only one who saw Matt pause and make his "I'm listening to someone thinking at me" frowny face when Nathan asked him to help, am I?

-- Oh, thank God, Monica isn't dead. WOOHOO.

Date: 2007-12-04 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juice817.livejournal.com
All three of them totally knew there was a camera going - they were so obviously Not Looking At The Red Light. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nathan was wearing a vest.

Date: 2007-12-04 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinkfinity.livejournal.com
I'm not the only one who saw Matt pause and make his "I'm listening to someone thinking at me" frowny face when Nathan asked him to help, am I?

No, you are not! Peter-Matt Mind Meld?

(here via friendsfriends)

Date: 2007-12-04 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milkshake-b.livejournal.com
And secondly, if she still had the virus, then how the hell was she managing to use her strength? You know what? Don't know, don't care, want to snuggle Micah.

She wasn't. That's why she couldn't just fling aside that burning beam and get to safety. Her beat-down of that guy was pure, honest, non-powered badassery.

Date: 2007-12-04 12:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trishalynn.livejournal.com
Agreed. She surprised him with a kick to the crotch first, and mom-fueled kicks can be pretty strong. And then when he was down, she used the rest of her Mom-Power to cold-cock him with the gun. Just like they do in the 'hood. ^_^

Date: 2007-12-04 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insidian.livejournal.com
*sigh*

See the thing of it is, how much SupahBlood does it take to make you permanently recover from your injuries? I'm functioning under the horror that once injected, always a survivor. Which means:

1 - YAY NOAH FOREVAH!
2 - YAY NATHAN FOREVAH!
3 - BOOOOOOO MAYA FOREVAH!

And while it makes me sad that I'm mostly angry at the female characters (GOD, NIKI HATE!), I think it's mostly the fault of the writers for making many of the women lame beyond lameness. Alejandro, for the record, had the LAMEST superpower ever and I'm glad he's dead.

Date: 2007-12-04 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dawnmipb.livejournal.com
Oh oh oh!!!

You're right! Nathan's had Adam's blood and so he's not dead! Woot!

And that was totally Nathan telling Peter not to worry, he'd be all better in a minute.

*does the happy dance*

Date: 2007-12-04 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] namey.livejournal.com
Maybe. They haven't said anything about how long the blood is "active" (on purpose at this point, probably). Could do its job (heal everything wrong right now), last a short time, then it's absorbed/rejected, or has some minor lasting effect (HRG will never sneeze again). It'd kill (sic) too many dramatic plotbunnies if half the cast was invincible.

Date: 2007-12-04 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com
You know -- it occurs to me that Alejandro may never have had a power at all.

All he did was calm Maya down so she stopped exuding black stuff. So now I think she could always control her power and just never realized it.

Date: 2007-12-04 06:50 pm (UTC)
darcydodo: (peter dreams - heroes)
From: [personal profile] darcydodo
I don't think that's the case for a few reasons:

1) Alejandro didn't get the eye-ooze ever until he was right in the act of calming Maya down, which makes him immune if nothing else.
2) See above, with the quick eye-darkening thing as he, what, "absorbed" her power, I guess?
3) They're twins. Twins are always "special." Even if special = pathetic. ;)

Date: 2007-12-04 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirrelarmy.livejournal.com
You know, part of me thinks that the "Nathan announces his plan in Primatech" thing wasn't Nathan being an idiot [...] but the three of them setting up the press conference as a fakeout. I would love to believe that, because in my mind the three of them are totally smart enough to do it, but something tells me the SHOW isn't smart enough to do it. -_- or at least, they don't think we'd be smart enough to pick up on it if they did.

And aw, I loved Mohinder in this episode. Maybe Maya is good for something there, at least -- being the dumbest character EVER, so she makes other ambiguously-wise people look fucking brilliant by comparison. Still wish she had stayed DEAD, though.

Date: 2007-12-04 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misachan.livejournal.com
If it helps, I would bet money that Niki's not dead. No body, no death, after all, and frankly it would be in character for her to think Micah's better off without her and her crazy-ass problems (and she thinks she's dying anyway, although I'm not at all sure she is). Although it would be ironic if she died in a fire after the whole, "Being a hero was what got your father killed" thing in T&C.

At least she saved Monica.

Date: 2007-12-04 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com
I wanted to slap her for saying "being a hero is what got your father killed".

What got him killed was coming after Niki when she got overwhelmed by a skanky new personality.

Date: 2007-12-05 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beanarie.livejournal.com
Most absolutely! My exact words after that line were, "Uh. No. Having a crazy wife is what killed your dad, Micah."

Date: 2007-12-04 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katikat.livejournal.com
Okay this? Oh, man, how much smarter does Mohinder look when Maya is in the same room? Then again, I think everybody's IQ skyrockets when she's around to compensate, like she's shooting spare brain cells out of her ears and people kind of have to pick them up like lint on a black coat. Killed me dead! LMAO!

Date: 2007-12-04 11:41 am (UTC)
medie: queen elsa's grand entrance (heroes - m and n - they fight crime)
From: [personal profile] medie
I'm doubting Nathan's dead. Partly because of all the characters they can afford to lose, I really don't think he's one of them. But mostly, NAHHH. it doesn't fit. At least, I doubt he's permanetly dead. Everything happened too fast for that. I'm thinking if Nathan *IS* dead, then it's possibly an engine to get a very po'd Kensei out of his little coffin. On the off chance Peter hasn't absorbed that ability (though, really, I think he has. He's gotten it twice over now. Claire and Kensei) then he'll be all *OMG MUST FIND CLAIRE* and if HRG's got her hidden away, he'll be all "OMG HIRO TELL ME WHEREEEEEEEEEEEEEE..."

But I like this "they totally planned it" theory. Matt *SO* did the thinky face. They made a point of focusing on his thinky face. Which makes me wonder what the boys are really up to. (Um, maybe I like this one so much because I love the idea of Rebel!Leader Nathan and Matt & Peter as his lieutenants. *G* Cause, um, *WIBBLE*) Luff the plan.

Besides, after last season and Matt getting shot like that...it'd be kinda lame if that's how Nathan bites it.

Hrm. Yes, Mohinder needs to put the bullet back in, though on the other hand. You're right. If we keep her around, he looks like the freaking genius he's supposed to be. *pets him*

Date: 2007-12-04 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinylegacies.livejournal.com
Which makes me wonder what the boys are really up to. (Um, maybe I like this one so much because I love the idea of Rebel!Leader Nathan and Matt & Peter as his lieutenants. *G* Cause, um, *WIBBLE*)

So, you're going to write that fic? *looks cute*

Date: 2007-12-04 12:10 pm (UTC)
medie: queen elsa's grand entrance (heroes - m and n - they fight crime)
From: [personal profile] medie
*facepalm* I pretty much walked into that one, didn't I? *grin* I'll add it to my list. Must start my M/M [livejournal.com profile] underthemistletoe fic too. *flails*

Date: 2007-12-04 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinylegacies.livejournal.com
-- Yeah, I'm pretty sure Niki's dead. That was one hell of an explosion and she was already sick and without powers.

-- Nathan could end up not being dead. Either because Peter would have absorbed both Claire & Adam's powers and his blood healed him or because of his previous infusion of Adam's blood or because the three set up the press conference and Nathan was wearing a vest. However? I have a feeling that he really is dead.

-- The 'Maya is dead, no she's not' fakeout was actually pretty good. It would have been even better if it was a character we liked though. But, oh, Mohinder. For a smart guy, you have zero common sense.

-- Hints of badass Five Years Gone Hiro? I kind of dig it.

-- I liked West standing up to Claire. Of course, when Nathan decided to go public, I turned to my roommate and said "Wow, Claire really is her father's daughter -- both of them wanting to tell the world what they can do."

-- You know, the fact that Angela is the only one we saw after the shooting does lend some credence to this theory.

-- Amen!! I'm also happy that Elle survived and got a chance to be a good guy.

Date: 2007-12-04 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kanedax.livejournal.com
Did anyone else notice that the knife in the vault was similar to the one that St Joan holds on the cover of the comic book?

Or did I just see it wrong because I wasn't paying a lot of attention?

Date: 2007-12-04 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Well, I've got the file open right now and this is what I'm seeing in the vault:

1. Three playing cards, all queens. The Queen of Clubs is missing.
2. A brain in a jar, labeled 8037 or B037.
3. The knife in question. The blade has a wave towards the point and the hilt curls on either side towards the blade. (And yeah, that's almost exactly what the blade on the cover looks like. You can't really see the hilt, but the blade is identical.)
4. A miniature wooden Trojan Horse carving.
5. A metal stand for something, which is missing.
6. A small dark pyramid.
7. A large gold key. The door to the compartment for the key is open, and Adam's hand was in it when Hiro entered.

I imagine Adam's hand reaching into the key compartment was meant to through off Hiro or whomever else entered next, since the empty metal stand appears to be the right size for the vial and Adam had plenty of time to snatch it out of there and hide it in his hand.

Date: 2007-12-04 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denorios.livejournal.com
Oh, I really hope Nathan's not dead. Really really hope. 'Cause...I need my Petrellis! And I can't believe they'd make us wait half a season to reunite them and kill Nathan! They wouldn't be that cruel, would they?

Date: 2007-12-04 06:46 pm (UTC)
darcydodo: (noah - holy sh - heroes)
From: [personal profile] darcydodo
like she's shooting spare brain cells out of her ears

I think you mean, out of her eyes. :)

I'm not the only one who saw Matt pause and make his "I'm listening to someone thinking at me" frowny face when Nathan asked him to help, am I?

Hmm, I dunno. I just rewatched that bit, and it would be pretty damn hard for Nathan to be actively thinking something at Matt while he's saying something else out loud. I do agree that Peter will probably bring him back to life, though. And Matt did make some sort of face, I agree, but it may have just been a "thinking is hard!" face. ;)

Date: 2007-12-16 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secretbutterfly.livejournal.com
While it is hard to think something while talking about something different, it so can be done if you practice what you're saying out loud enough. Trust me I used to do this when I worked in a call center and was leaving messages or asking really long questions.

This was random, I know. I'm ludicrously behind on my flist.

Date: 2007-12-16 03:37 pm (UTC)
darcydodo: (peter dreams - heroes)
From: [personal profile] darcydodo
Hmm, point, though I doubt Nathan had practiced that speech much. But yeah, mayyybe.

Date: 2007-12-16 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secretbutterfly.livejournal.com
Yeah I know, I'm grasping at straws, lol. Nathan dead=dumb.

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