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Sunday Halloween offends some in Bible Belt.

There are so many things about this story that piss me off, I can't even start. Stop fucking up my favorite holiday, you asshats. *seethes*

Date: 2004-10-15 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamt.livejournal.com
people have serious issues, don't they o.O;

Date: 2004-10-15 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyldkyss.livejournal.com
Sob.

It's so true though. I've heard many people blindly saying "You can't worship the devil on Sunday!"

Sadly, these are the same people that will bitch and moan about Halloween, no matter what day of the week it falls on. "Monday! You can't celebrate the devil on Monday! My child has homework!"

Date: 2004-10-15 02:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] radiotrash.livejournal.com
Now, I'm really not into religion at all, but isn't Saturday the Sabbath for the Jewish religion? So er, Christians are basically saying "no trick or treating on MY holy day but I don't give a rat's ass about yours!"

Also, if kids came to my door trick-or-treating on Saturday I wouldn't give them candy and just tell them to come back on the 31st. Really now...

Date: 2004-10-15 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jtersesk.livejournal.com
Well...but technically Jews "shouldn't" celebrate Halloween anyway, so I don't think it would matter that much to the ones who do. Also, since you go Trick or Treating in the evening, and Jewish holidays end at sundown, it isn't technically the Jewish Sabbath anymore anyway.

But I don't think Bible Belters care much about Jewish holidays.

Date: 2004-10-15 02:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] radiotrash.livejournal.com
Ah, I never knew that.

I don't think the Bible Belters care about anything other then themselves.

Date: 2004-10-15 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nute.livejournal.com
technically Jews "shouldn't" celebrate Halloween anyway

Why exactly would that be? Is that like saying they shouldn't watch the Super Bowl or celebrate Labor Day? Halloween's not a religious holiday, any more than Memorial Day is. It's a social and populist one. Folks of any faith who have a problem with it are simply a few decades behind the times.

Date: 2004-10-15 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jtersesk.livejournal.com
No it's not like that at all. Halloween does have Pagan roots, was not absorbed into any Jewish celebration like the Harvest holidays were, has no basis in the Bible, and is not a national American holiday like Memorial Day or Thanksgiving. Many religious Jews do not celebrate Halloween for the same reason that they don't celebrate Christmas or Kwanzaa - these are not Jewish holidays, nor are they American national holidays. Halloween is not a national holiday either, it's a social construction. No one gets days off for Halloween. Banks and federal offices aren't closed. It doesn't memorialize anyone or commemorate anything. That's not to say it isn't fun. :)

Many religious Jews are just as offended by Halloween as religious Christians, and for the same reasons.

Anyway, mandatory disclaimers - I'm Jewish but not Orthodox and I went trick or treating almost every year of my childhood.

I didn't mean to start a controversy. :)

Date: 2004-10-15 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nute.livejournal.com
Yeah, Halloween had pagan roots - and all of humanity had Eurasian roots. Modern democracy has Greek roots. Ancient history, and all that.

Date: 2004-10-15 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jtersesk.livejournal.com
Yeeesss.... so Jews should celebrate Pagan holidays?

Date: 2004-10-15 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nute.livejournal.com
Sure, if any really existed.

Date: 2004-10-15 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spyderqueen.livejournal.com
she's saying "technically" as in "technically Halloween or All Hallows Eve also known as All Souls Day (and Eve to All Saints Day) is a Catholic Holiday" so "technically" it would be like Jews celebrating Christmas or Easter both of which have become remarkably secular over time.

Date: 2004-10-15 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowbryneich.livejournal.com
the term Hallowe'en is a corruption of All Hallows Eve the Eve of All Saints Day which is christian(catholic)holiday, and they took it from the pagans who call it Samhain (one of the four greater sabbats), it's new year in the celtic calendar

NB I don't have any problem with Jews or anyone of any faith celebrating it even in the commercial way but it's inaccurate to say it's not religious, because it is religious in origin and for myself and most people(I know) of a pagan faith it's the most important religious holiday of the year.

Date: 2004-10-15 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miggy.livejournal.com
"You just don't do it on Sunday," said Sandra Hulsey of Greenville, Ga. "That's Christ's day. You go to church on Sunday, you don't go out and celebrate the devil. That'll confuse a child."

That's right! If you want to avoid confusing children, you have them go out and celebrate the devil on other days.

Date: 2004-10-15 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mpoetess.livejournal.com
Damn, you beat me to it. Just... bzuh?

Date: 2004-10-15 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lots42.livejournal.com
Georgia, eh? That must be why so many hurricanes ended up there, God was trying to get Sandra for being a dumbarse.

Date: 2004-10-16 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] escavallan.livejournal.com
Oh, man, that was so my first thought too. WTF, eh?

Date: 2004-10-15 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lots42.livejournal.com
Geeze, whatever happened to 'Letting the little snot monsters have their fun'? I'm a crotchety old fart and even I don't mind Halloween

Date: 2004-10-16 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I adore Halloween. It's like a nationwide costume party with candy. And these stupid bastards are ruining it for little kids. *grumblegrumble*

Date: 2004-10-15 04:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akacat
Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick.

If you think that a holiday/event/whatever is a celebration of something evil, and you're not in favor of evil, maybe you should avoid it *entirely*!!!

Anyway, didn't Halloween start out as something intended to *scare off* evil spirits?

Date: 2004-10-15 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lots42.livejournal.com
Yeah, but that acknowledges a belief system different from the Bible Belt so it is WRONG OMG EVIL BURN BOOKS

Date: 2004-10-15 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torificus.livejournal.com
That's the kind of thing that makes you want to say two things:

1)Get the hell over it, you moronic fucks.

2)Halloween is, for the very last time, not about the devil. Read a book some time, plzkthx.

Date: 2004-10-15 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dawning-star.livejournal.com
Last time I checked, All Hollow's Eve was about elisting the help of good spirits to fight the bad. Then again, that acknowledges something not written by "God" therefore it is TeH eBiL oMg!1!1!1!

Date: 2004-10-15 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silent-sybil.livejournal.com
You know, if they're really such holy Christians, and they really believe that Halloween is of the devil... then why the hell are they going to let their kids go out Saturday? Wouldn't that be almost as bad?

Fuck, if one finds the holiday so offensive, all one needs to do is TURN OFF THE PORCH LIGHT! Jeeezus. *sins incidentally*

People make me mad.

Date: 2004-10-15 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleolinda.livejournal.com
My favorite part was the bit where they talked about Vestavia craziness. Birmingham represent!

Date: 2004-10-15 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitterdemon.livejournal.com
"It's a day for the good Lord, not for the devil," said Barbara Braswell, who plans to send her 4-year-old granddaughter Maliyah out trick-or-treating in a princess costume on Saturday instead.

that is possibly the most hypocritical thing i have ever heard.

Date: 2004-10-15 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] overloved.livejournal.com
OH MY GOD! Why do I live here? *appalled*

Date: 2004-10-16 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-jackalope.livejournal.com
The thing is, I know people here (in the DC area) who are doing the same thing. It makes me roll my eyes and wish I could hold up a "Stop being on my side" sign.

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