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Busloads of Kids Visit Jackson's Neverland Ranch -- You know, I've come to realize that I don't hate Michael Jackson because he might be a child molestor. I hate him because he's a fucking idiot. I'm being accused of child abuse, so I'll invite some kids to my house. Tomorrow, I'm going to commit an ax murder and then have the Lumberjack Olympics on my front lawn. Sheesh.

Gay Teen Expelled From High School -- Oh, for fuck's sake.

In U.S., 44 Percent Say Restrict Muslims -- ... the hell?! You know what stories like this remind me of? I think it was Patton Oswalt who pointed out that the average IQ is 100, which means that half of the population has a double-digit IQ. *sigh*

EDIT: Also, I listened to Bill O'Reilly again yesterday, and he seriously needs to have someone explain to him that liberals aren't going to outlaw Christmas and burn down every church in the country or something. No, really.

Date: 2004-12-18 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorei.livejournal.com
Many do, but really, you can't use old testament to argue christian doctrine as they have a new testament. The law was made unnecessary by the sacrifice of Jesus of Nazareth. So really, anything in the old testament isn't valid for being "right in the eyes of god".

That would mean great things for homosexuals, except for that pesky verse in Romans, which basically means, sorry guys, its still wrong for christians to have sex with another person of the same sex.

Date: 2004-12-18 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wal-lace.livejournal.com
Romans as in, the Epistle to the Romans? Written by St Paul? Who as a matter of historical record was actively homosexual?

Wow.

Date: 2004-12-18 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorei.livejournal.com
Yep.

Rom 1:26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Date: 2004-12-19 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lots42.livejournal.com
Maybe the due penalty was chafing

Date: 2004-12-18 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budclare.livejournal.com
"its still wrong for christians to have sex with another person of the same sex."

What about having sex with two other people of the same sex? You can't tell me that Romans has an anti-orgy clause. ;)

Date: 2004-12-18 09:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorei.livejournal.com
LOL Funny you should mention that.

Rom 13:13 Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy.

Date: 2004-12-18 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budclare.livejournal.com
Well that's...thorough. Pooh.

(Not that it has anything to do with me one way or the other, but still.)

Date: 2004-12-18 08:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guinwhyte.livejournal.com
Divorce (and especially remarriage, which is adultery) are not okay in the New Testament either. And y'know, these things never happen among Christians or in a Christian church. *twitch*

Date: 2004-12-18 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budclare.livejournal.com
I think that the unspoken consensus is that those people aren't true Christians...unless they happen to be, you know, a family member or close friend, in which case all is forgiven. Behold the power of in-groups and out-groups and tremble.

Date: 2004-12-18 07:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sesana
My pastor (at a conservative, Missouri Synod Lutheran church) was divorced and remarried. I remember that we had very, very long discussions over his worth as a pastor.

Date: 2004-12-18 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spyderqueen.livejournal.com
I love how followers begin misinterpreting Jesus so quickly after his death. Jesus never said the vast majority of things in the Epistles

Date: 2004-12-18 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seferin.livejournal.com
Except that Jesus was Jewish. And if the rules were good enough for him?

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