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May. 27th, 2005 06:22 pmNo more reading wank communities at work if I'm going to get this upset over links like this.
Considering how many instances in my family there are of adoption through remarriage, I don't think I've wanted to punch someone so much in a looooong time. *seethes*
Considering how many instances in my family there are of adoption through remarriage, I don't think I've wanted to punch someone so much in a looooong time. *seethes*
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Date: 2005-05-27 10:35 pm (UTC)Just wow.
I thought I'd seen all the asinine opinions possible on the internet.
That link just proved me wrong.
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Date: 2005-05-27 10:42 pm (UTC)People like that make me want to be in another species.
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Date: 2005-05-27 10:43 pm (UTC)This is not to say that there aren't a lot of kids out there that have been taken away by the CYS that still don't have better care in Foster homes, but still, I'm a firm believe in removing children from this crap and placing them permanently with any good adoptive home that will take them. My world also has bunnies and unicorns and fountains made of chocolate.
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Date: 2005-05-27 10:44 pm (UTC)*boggles*
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Date: 2005-05-27 11:23 pm (UTC)I wonder what she'd think about someone who legally changed their last name to that of a step-father's when it became abundantly clear that the birth father wanting nothing to do with me-- er, that is, the child.
::shakes head:: I weep for the asshattery of the world.
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Date: 2005-05-27 11:05 pm (UTC)And guardianship is the answer? What kind of kid is going to grow up wearing a t-shirt, "I'm not wanted and that's okay!"? That is going to fuck someone up, especially as adoption is legal and quite accepted now.
And where genetics make up the personality? Can we call Penn & Teller Bullshit and have her on there with her "Pro-Choice Mom" shirt and just have them scream?
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Date: 2005-05-27 11:10 pm (UTC)WOW. There are not enough WOWs to express the WOW of that.
Holy shit! I don't even have adoptions in my family history and I know that's incredibly ignorant and insulting, omg. GENETIC STRANGER? WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?
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Date: 2005-05-27 11:15 pm (UTC)It's better to keep a child in limbo with "guardianship" rather than give it a permanent family? What planet is this woman from? Because surely, she does not belong to the same species I do...
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Date: 2005-05-27 11:16 pm (UTC)I mean, OK, I can kind of understand her point about honesty, and about people who aren't the parents pretending they areNo, I can't. It's bullshit.no subject
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Date: 2005-05-27 11:35 pm (UTC)Actually, she sounds like she's been brainwashed.
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Date: 2005-05-28 12:02 am (UTC)Gods. My brain felt like it was slowly being sucked out by a bendy straw while I read through the entire thing. The entire blood=family, and blood relatives=good thing makes me think she lived a very sheltered life.
A couple of my friends are adopted, and their biological parents were horrible. That poster is effin' insane.
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Date: 2005-05-28 12:27 am (UTC)So, your birth parents are your birth parents are your birth parents... until you get married? That's some good hypocrisy.
I have two (sibling) cousins who were adopted at birth, and while it wasn't an open-adoption, it was never a secret in our family. We all have dozens of things that make us who we are today, and that's just one of them. Sometimes when our parents are being extra stupid, A will joke "well, thank goodness I wasn't at risk for getting that gene." But otherwise? Why would it come up?
We have a large extended family. My dad always says that the best part about having so many people around is that you only have to stay in touch with the people that you like. And the people that you like? No matter how they're related, they're family.
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Date: 2005-05-28 12:39 am (UTC)I have about four or five adopted cousins, all from Korea. The oldest, I know, had actually been adopted by a Korean couple, but when she was seven, they wanted to move to the U.S. and found out that they couldn't relocate if they had her-- so they dumped her in an orphanage. At the orphanage, which was actually one that Mother Theresa visited while she was alive, they cut her hair and took away her violin (her most prized possession-- she plays professionally now). My aunt adopted her when she was nine and pretty much saved her from a life of poverty.
I also had a friend who was shuffled around in the foster system before being adopted-- when she was thirteen, her adoptive mother died of lung cancer, and all she had was her adoptive father. She had a lot of issues; she was bi-polar, ended up getting pregnant by fifteen, had an abortion, ran away a few times, ended up living with an adoptive aunt out in Detroit. But at least she had people who cared about her.
I think there are definite problems with the foster system, and that with adoption comes complications, but I really despise this idea that your biological parents have some sort of claim over you that can't be breached. I changed my last name to my mother's maiden name when I was nine, and now I'm estranged from my entire biological family, aside from my mother, and was at one point looking seriously into emancipation.
Sometimes, shitty things happen and people have no way of being parents, which is when adoption becomes the best possible solution. One thing I've learned is that family isn't blood; family is the ones who are there for you, who take care of you when you're in need. For a lot of people, that doesn't end up being their biological parents.
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Date: 2005-05-28 12:51 am (UTC)This seems to seriously underestimate women in general, not to mention trivialize the issue of giving up a child. It's a similar arguement to the one I've heard against abortion; women don't "understand" the emotional consequences. I don't think any woman makes the decision to give up her child (or potential child, if we're talking abortion) lightly.
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Date: 2005-05-28 12:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-05-28 01:10 am (UTC)My fiance plans to adopt my daughter (from a previous relationship that went terribly sour). To her, he's Daddy. Family goes beyond the borders of DNA, dammit.
I hope her parents sit her down one day and tell her she's adopted.
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Date: 2005-05-28 01:54 am (UTC)What the fuck ever. I did it, and I have never once regretted it. I love my son, I miss my son, but never once have I thought that I did the wrong thing. *sigh*
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Date: 2005-05-28 05:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-05-28 06:51 am (UTC)and downright asshatteddefinition of "family" (only biologically related people).I've these friends who consider me family and vice versa. More like an aunt-uncle-and-cousins level, sure, but family. I'm closer to them than most of my biological family.