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I could swear I've read the male Christian conservative opinion on Brokeback Mountain before, but [livejournal.com profile] anglepoiselamp linked to it again and quoted this line from it:

The young ladies who are fans of Gyllenhaal and Ledger do not want to see them making out.

That line kills me dead. Because -- and this is just a theory, mind you -- I'm pretty sure I could have sex with an ugly guy I hated in the same room as Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal having a wild, hot homosexual fling on the other side of the room, and have it be the best sex I could ever have just from keeping my head turned in the right direction to watch every sexy minute of them doing it.
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Date: 2005-12-06 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dawning-star.livejournal.com
The young ladies who are fans of Gyllenhaal and Ledger do not want to see them making out.

What's the color of the sky in his world again? O.o

Date: 2005-12-06 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
One gets the impression he never actually talks to girls. Or maybe he means "young ladies" as in the rest of us chicks who want to see it happen are just dirty pervs. Amazingly enough, I can live with that assessment of my character.

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Date: 2005-12-06 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastaqueen.livejournal.com
I cannot wait for that movie to come out! I live in red state Indiana though, so I might end up driving an hour to the arty theatre to be able to see it. So yes, male Christian conservative guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

Date: 2005-12-06 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stumpsforhands.livejournal.com
I think it's amusing that, after all these years, straight women finally are on board with the whole "watching two people both of the opposite sex do sex things together is sexy."

Date: 2005-12-06 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
...You mean the mainstream media finally acknowledges it.

I don't think straight women just jumped on board, if you know what I mean.

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Date: 2005-12-06 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wal-lace.livejournal.com
Yeah. That whole article was big on fandom_wank a couple of days back, so probably everybody's heard of it by now.

This guy has never had so much free publicity before in his life. PR companies take note.

Date: 2005-12-06 04:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] florahart
...they don't?

*takes their temperature*

Date: 2005-12-06 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dimethirwen.livejournal.com
Agreed.

I think the polite phrase to describe the author of this article is "out of touch." Maybe he is made uncomfortable by it, but the "young ladies" in question certainly won't be, overall.

*eyes glaze over at thought of the two of them together*

Date: 2005-12-06 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timba.livejournal.com
...How have I not heard about this movie?!

Gyllenhaal and Ledger make out? lord thunderin' jesus I think my ovaries mught explode.

Date: 2005-12-06 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wal-lace.livejournal.com
And eat pudding.

Well, probably not. But they should!

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Date: 2005-12-06 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaosphaere.livejournal.com
(waves wildly) I WANNA SEE THEM MAKING OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: 2005-12-06 05:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] valerie
Do I even want to explain to this guy exactly how many females read/write slash?

Date: 2005-12-06 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-pryss.livejournal.com
You know, just when I think I've learned to be reasonably zen about the Christian Right-fuelled homophobia in this country... I read something like this and spend the rest of the day shaking with rage.

EW.

Date: 2005-12-06 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sadiekate.livejournal.com
If only I could convince my boyfriend to make out with Jake Gyllenhaal.

But the only man he wants is Chris Cornell.

*sigh*

I guess I'LL just have to make out with Jake Gyllenhaal.

Date: 2005-12-06 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elessar.livejournal.com
I really love all the comments towards the journalist. Because seriously, do more research if you're going to write that line. Does he KNOW how huge slash followings are among young girls? XD

Date: 2005-12-06 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apiphile.livejournal.com
Guess I really must be a pervy old lady, then.

Date: 2005-12-06 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennifus.livejournal.com
HA! And, so true.

Date: 2005-12-06 05:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sabotabby
The boyfriend and I saw a trailer for that movie. Neither of us had heard about it beforehand, and the first few minutes looked like it was just supposed to be a western of some sort.

I leaned over and whispered to him, "Hey, is this supposed to be a gay porn?" He replied that I had a dirty mind. You know, until it was revealed a few seconds later that it was a movie about hot gay cowboys who fuck each other.

It doesn't necessarily make me want to see it, since the dialogue looked laughably bad, but it did made me want to rent it once it's out on video so I can fast forward through the parts where they're not making out.

Date: 2005-12-06 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pie-is-good.livejournal.com
Finally, a movie that writes the gay porn all by itself.

Date: 2005-12-06 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astaria51.livejournal.com
Uh. I think I can say perfectly honestly that they do.

Date: 2005-12-06 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonsinger.livejournal.com
*LOL* For me personally, I'm pretty selfish. If two men that good looking are in the same room with me, I want them to be into me, not each other.

Date: 2005-12-06 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
Well, yeah. That's the ultimate option, but the watching-them-making-out-with-one-another thing is a Plan B I can live with. ;)

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Date: 2005-12-06 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spyderqueen.livejournal.com
I love the people pointing out that "if all straight men find anal sex gross, why are anal sex porn DVDs selling so well?"


This guy just makes me think of Stephen Colbert's comment.
"You don't hate all gays, just the ones that turn you on."

Date: 2005-12-06 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anne-jumps.livejournal.com
This guy just makes me think of Stephen Colbert's comment.
"You don't hate all gays, just the ones that turn you on."


hee, exactly.

This was linked at [livejournal.com profile] wranglers last week, and I emailed it to Amanda at Pandagon.net. It's been around. You'll notice that at the end he closes comments because "everyone was coming here from gay sex blogs" and hey, that's all he needs to decide, OF COURSE it's not average girls and gay men who are commenting -- it's sick pervs who read gay porn blogs, and he's still the one "in the mainstream" so he can pat himself on the back.

Date: 2005-12-06 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anglepoiselamp.livejournal.com
Heh. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'd seen the link before too, but that one line just jumped out at me and insisted on being posted. Such gems bear repetition. ;)

I think I could do absolutely anything while watching Heath and Jake having a wild, hot homosexual fling - hell, I could be washing dishes in the same room and still have it be the best sex I've ever had. XD

Date: 2005-12-06 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalypsos.livejournal.com
I wonder if that guy realizes that the article says less about the sexual predilictions of "young ladies" and more about how sad and boring his sex life must be. :)

Date: 2005-12-06 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] risen-daemon.livejournal.com
Well, it's like this. Remember, as a kid, you found your (most likely) dad's hidden porno stash, and you saw your 1st gay porn? 1st reaction, "ewwwwwww, that's gross!" Well alright, the hetero sex looks gross when you're a kid, but let's ignore that for this discussion.

The point is, most people get over it, and attach the feeling of "hotness" to gay sex. Other people never get over the feeling of "ewwwwwwwwww".

Date: 2005-12-06 06:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyprinella
Well, I'm 25 and still think all sex is kinda gross when you really think about it and I am constantly cracking up at the ridiculous of it (my poor boyfriend).

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Date: 2005-12-06 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leelee-cakes.livejournal.com
The young ladies who are fans of Gyllenhaal and Ledger do not want to see them making out.

My sister is 14. She cannot WAIT to see that movie though I told her I'd be looking into that first... In her own words "C'mon! Boys kissing is awesome!"

Date: 2005-12-06 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabra-n.livejournal.com
See, I'll admit I was surprised to find the hordes of boylove-loving women out there way back when. (Oh, naive days.) But I'd never be so abysmally stupid as to state that my ideas on sex = everybody's ideas on sex. I mean, how stupid is that? I'm guessing Mr. Whoever used a sample size of 0 women questioned when making that statement, just from the tone of it. They're so cute when the spout truisms, aren't they? *pats his innocent little head*

-blue

Date: 2005-12-06 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzycat.livejournal.com
I know I will have to force myself to see this dreadful film, what with my innate distaste for the idea of two beautiful young men getting naked and doing dirty dirty things to each other's naked bodies. But I feel I need to do it for the good of the Nation, or something. I might even go twice and/or get it on DVD and freeze frame the offending filthy scene, just to ensure that I do, indeed, find it icky and bad. Yep.

;-)

Date: 2005-12-06 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drewbeartx.livejournal.com
If you don't watch this movie, you're letting the terrorists win!

Date: 2005-12-06 08:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] weirdquark
The young ladies who are fans of Gyllenhaal and Ledger do not want to see them making out.

So if women don't like to see two men making out because of the 'ick' factor, then does that mean this guy thinks that men don't want to see two women making out because of the 'ick' factor? Because the lesbian porn marketed towards straight guys says otherwise.

In slightly related news, I read about one of the actors (I don't remember which one) talking about people's reactions to the early screenings. He said that people kept coming up to him to say how moving they found the love story, and how they kept prefacing their remarks by, "I'm straight, but..." So clearly the ick factor doesn't apply.
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