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So [livejournal.com profile] hiddenw brought up the Supernatural friending meme that's been going on, with all of the non-Wincest folk friending one another. And I do think it's a great idea, but I guess the best description of what I'm feeling about the whole thing is ... worried? I don't know.

First of all, before I say anything else, I do have to say that I do like the concept of the meme. If you're not into the Wincest and the mere mention of it is enough to squick you, it makes sense to try and find people who aren't going to talk about it. That's perfectly fair and, considering the fact that the pro-Wincest people are apparently the majority, probably a good idea. It sure as hell makes up for the fact that the rest of this fandom is made up of pervs. (Yes, we're all pervs. Anybody who says they're into Wincest but not a perv is not accepting their freaky side and frightens me just a tad.)

I think what's worrying me about the whole thing is if it's going to lead to people not reading Wincest writers even when they're not writing Wincest. I mean, look at me. I'm pro-Wincest. Frankly, this is one of the few fandoms I could buy an incestuous relationship in, because that family is amazingly fucked-up, the brothers have only ever had each other (and their dad, but really), and they both have an amazing amount of love for one another. And while they're fine just the way they are, the step from "loving brothers" to "fucking brothers" honestly isn't that far. Nobody's saying it would be a healthy relationship, because they would be brothers who were fucking one another, or that it HAS to go that far, just that it could, that it's a plausible stretch with these characters. (On a side note, that's probably why I can write Project Runway RPS but not the WB RPS I want to -- because the boysex or possibility thereof is in the canon. Or at least, because I know the canon better. ;))

But what I was getting at is that as pro-Wincest as I am, only one of the eleven Supernatural stories I currently have written and posted is Wincest. And almost every great Wincest writer I've read isn't writing only Wincest. That's what's throwing me off. That authors may get ignored over the Wincest, and not the stories with the Wincest in 'em themselves.

The friending meme gives you a safe list of people who are only writing non-Wincest stories, which is great. You know exactly who you can read and discuss the show with who's not going to bring up the naughtybrothersex. But then there are people who write Wincest, gen, and maybe even a little het (*raises hand*), and what happens in that case? I know not all of the people who've done the friending meme are going to say, "She writes Wincest, so I'll just avoid all of her stuff," and it's probably not going to happen, but still. Hell, I'll write anything, since it's taken me a while but I've realized that the only real squick I have left is bad writing.

It also kind of leads me to another thought, which is how Wincest can even be avoided in this fandom. I think the thing that worries me about the stance of, "Thanks, I'm not really into the naked leapfrog, so I'll just sit over here and play hopscotch," which is a perfectly acceptable stance considering who's playing the naked leapfrog, is that it reminds me a little of the early days of Buffy/Angel vs. Buffy/Spike in BtVS fandom. In the beginning, everybody respectfully disagreed, and by the time I was starting to move on, both sides were still lobbing occasional potshots at one another from the other side of fandom. I just love this fandom to itty bitty pieces and don't want that to happen here, I guess.

I don't know. Maybe I'm reading too much into this. I just needed to get that off my chest, is all.

(In summation, the non-Wincest people are friendly and great and deserve to be able to not deal with squicky stuff, the Wincest people are lots of fun and admit they're pervs but can't swear enough that they mean well, and I'm a Libra. As if you couldn't tell.)

In related news, I'll get to the fic titles meme either later on today or tomorrow, promise. I just want to get my next naughtybrothersex story out of the way. :)

Date: 2006-02-22 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storydivagirl.livejournal.com
I understand what you're saying, but I like to believe that people who want good fic will be able to get past the "gen fic by a wincest author thing" (of course, who knows with humanity these days). I took part in the nonwincest friending meme because it's just not my thing, but I still have a lot of friends on my list that are into it. I just skip those entries and go about my merry way and then read the other stuff that I love from them.

I just get sad when my favorite writers are writing all these wincest stories because I know they're probably so damn good, but alas, I just can't get past the whole "dude, they're related" thing.

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